Hey all...I've been pretty exhaustively trying all the current streaming services. I know this is a Stadia group but I thought if anyone out there is curious about what the experience is like on other services, perhaps you could benefit from a layman's experience using each service and trying to make it my "main" service. Like I said, I'm a layman, not a professional reviewer, so there's a lot of things I'm still learning, but having tried all three of the major services, here's my thoughts.
Edit: Please bear in mind this is not an exhaustive list, just some thoughts based on a couple of months of on and off testing. I'm certainly not trying to sway or influence anyone's purchasing decisions, just giving some general thoughts that might help when trying to decide which service to look into. I know not everyone can get ahold of / rush out and buy all of the devices I have listed here - I happen to work for a tech company so I have a lot more devices floating around than most other people. Your mileage, of course, may vary!
I know there's also Steam Link, but since that requires you to have a PC capable of playing the game in the house somewhere, I'm not considering that a streaming service.
Testing Devices:

ChromeCast Ultra (Stadia Only)
iPad Pro 2020
Asus G14
Pixel 2 XL (xCloud only)
iPhone 12 Pro Max (Stadia only)
nVidia Shield (GeForce Now only)
Samsung Galaxy Chromebook (Stadia only)

Amazon Luna

Notable Games: Control, lots of highly rated indie titles (Blasphemous, Bloodstained, Iconoclasts)
To be fair, I only have about 6 hours on Amazon Luna, but they've been pretty excruciating. My wifi averages about 75-90 MBps, and about half of the games I tried suffered from lag and graphical smear, mostly the Ubisoft+ games. The indie games played fabulously well. Luna is probably the service I have the least to say about. It's $6 a month for Luna on it's own, so it's kindof like the "also-ran" effort - it's cheap, but might be the most forgettable of the bunch. The user interface is better than GeForce Now, worse than Stadia, and unlike Stadia it doesn't seem like Luna can be enhanced with browser extensions.
I have Ubisoft+, so I tried to play Immortal: Fenyx Rising on Luna and it was absolutely horrible. Smeared graphics, dropped frames, input lag, the works. It was the only experience across all of the big three services that was literally unplayable. This seemed to be a problem only with the Ubisoft games, however, I have to stress.
Pros

Netflix-style game selection, with lots of indie titles you don't see many other places. Control is the only standout AAA title, and it looks and plays fantastically. Indie games were great too.
Integration with Ubisoft+ is seamless and the games just become part of your library.
Twitch integration is pretty cool - nice to see streamers who are playing the game live when you jump into the game page.
Runs in the browser but also has dedicated apps - a plus for me.
Luna is probably the best service for Twitch streamers - it's integrated right into the UI. I don't stream so I wasn't able to test it, but it seems pretty easy.

Cons

Seems to be in Early Access, so I literally don't know anyone else who has gotten an invite.
The pro of having niche indie games is offset by the con of not having a wide game selection. Of all the services, seems like Luna has the least, but broadest, selection.
Seeing an ad for Luna, WHILE PLAYING LUNA, was irrationally annoying. Amazon just can't freaking help themselves I guess.
I signed up for Luna fully expecting to play all of my games claimed through Prime Gaming...literally none of those games are available.
If there's a way to find Luna from the main Amazon home page, they've hid it pretty well. I'm sure it's buried in one of their dozens of menus but I could not for the life of me find a quick and easy way to get to Luna from Amazon dotcom.
This is a very minor point, but Amazon Luna ONLY works on Chrome, while Google Stadia works in either Chrome or Edge Browser (since it's built on Chromium). Probably doesn't make a difference for most people, but to me Edge seems to run better, so I'm docking a point.

GeForce Now

Notable Games: Cyberpunk 2077, Control, Immortals: Fenix Rising, Metro series, Destiny 2 (all paid)
I picked up an nVidia Shield specifically for GeForce now, but my wife and I have ended up using it primarily for Kodi and to watch Netflix more than playing any games on it. I'll just say it straight out - GeForce Now sucks ass. It's a broken, shoddy, inconsistent mess. It's actually WORSE on the Shield than it is on PC, because there are so many times when I needed a keyboard to do anything. I tried playing Immortals: Fenyx Rising on GFN on my Shield which required me to log into Ubisoft+. I'm fine with that, since you only have to do it once...but using the Shield remote that came with my Shield, the on-screen keyboard never popped up, forcing me to track down a second keyboard from in my garage and plug in. After I plugged in the physical keyboard....THEN the onscreen keyboard popped up and just mirrored what I pressed on the physical keyboard. What? Why?
Games are all over the place as well. Witcher 3 was a nightmare - every time you try to play the game, it wants to install the DLC packs onto whatever virtual machine you've been assigned. Then when you can play, it dips so far under 30 fps it's literally better to just play it on a budget PC with Hairworks off.
Plus the Shield ain't cheap - it was like $200 at Best Buy, and didn't include a controller. $100 more gets you a Series S, and $100 LESS gets you a Stadia-enabled Chromecast WITH a solid as hell controller, just for comparison's sake.
Pros

Raytracing, I guess. Control looks great?
Links with Steam, GOG, and Epic, so you keep your games if the service goes down at some point in the future. Also technically "cheaper" overall than Stadia cos you can find cheap keys online or Steam sales (which seem to be more frequent than Stadia sales) and still get the game in your GeForce Now.
GFN seems to have the widest selection of enabled games. Not all that impressive since you have to own the game already, but this does give it somewhat of an advantage.
Links to Epic library, which is cool. 80% of my games on Epic were not GFN enabled, which is not as cool.

Cons

Literally the hardest of the big three services to use. Not a "pick up and play" experience. Requires a lot of effort to get working, and even then, inconsistent across platforms.
Even on nVidias own hardware, it can be tricky to figure out what games actually are on GeForce Now and which aren't and get them running right.
Some games just don't play well. Witcher 3 is a buggy, low framerate mess...while Control is smooth as butter. No rhyme or reason as to why. I couldn't get Mankind Divided to play full-screen - it always wanted to play in a window.
Since you're just running a virtual machine, you still have to fiddle with graphical settings. Some games don't look right when first started, and you have to remember to go into the settings and change things to match whatever screen you're on.
Twice I still had to wait in a queue to play even though I paid for the Founder's subscription. Insanely frustrating.
One hour limit to gameplay if you don't pay for the Founder's subscription, and you're stuck waiting in a queue. There were times where I was in a queue of over 300, which translated to upwards of 18 minutes one session, waiting to play. I would go as far as to say, if you don't pay for Founder's, don't bother with GFN at all.
Also, just because I don't have anywhere else to put this, Ubisoft's Cloud Save system is atrocious. This isn't nVidia's fault, I just want to complain about it.

Google Stadia

Notable Games: Cyberpunk 2077 (paid), Hitman: World of Assassination (Pro), Destiny 2 (Pro), Red Dead Redemption II (Paid)
Stadia is easily the best overall, but it still has its cons. I came to Stadia thanks to Cyberpunk 2077 so I have the most hours played on Stadia of the big three services. Stadia on the Chromecast Ultra seems to me to be the hands down best way to play streamed games currently.
Of all the services, Stadia was the one that felt the least like a "me-too" service and more like a dedicated platform. Almost all of the other services felt like a way for corporations to dip their toe in the water and figure out if there's money to be made, while Stadia feels like someone who really grasps and cares about gaming is at the helm.
Pros

Least barrier to entry. Download Chrome or Edge Browser, grab any bluetooth controller, and you're off the races.
No subscription required. You can play any game purchased on Stadia without a subscription with no queue system, no picking a virtual machine, no Steam big picture mode...it's just, hit the Play button and go.
This is a big one for me - seems to have the best "capture" integration. Though, the iOS / Android app could use work (just let me download the image and share it? Why do I need to share a link?) overall, sharing your snaps and vids is pretty easy on Stadia.
Playing with the Stadia controller on my TV after picking up a Chromecast Ultra felt like magic.
Similarly, being able to "pick up and play" games like Cyberpunk 2077 on a Chromebook felt similarly magical. The game looked its best, believe it or not, on a Samsung Chromebook that I tested at Best Buy. Random side note but the Google guy at Best Buy was SO EXCITED that I wanted to check out Stadia on a Chromebook. He was over the moon.
The game selection for Pro does have some interesting titles that I wouldn't have picked up otherwise. But see Con 1 below.

Cons

The game selection for Stadia Pro is a tad lackluster at the moment. Definitely enough to keep me playing, but there wasn't really a "must have" title that jumped out at me. Bunch of average, quite playable titles
The game selection for purchases is a little thin as well, seeing as how the service is over a year old at this point. I know it’s on literally every other platform but I would have loved to do a second play through of Control on Stadia, and stuff like Horizon: Zero Dawn, Hades, even some older indie titles like Transistor or Pyre, some of the Lego games...
UI seems like an complete afterthought, which is a little weird since this is a Google product. This is solved a little bit by extensions like Stadia Enhanced, but that's a third party fix so I'm still listing it as a con. No search? Captures seem deprecated?
Probably the highest "cost" to play, since you have to buy the games outright, and sales seem few and far between. If Stadia just vanishes at some point (which, let's be fair, Google has a track record of doing with their services) they haven't really outlined what happens to your library.
No raytracing yet. Not really a con for me personally, but other services offer it.
This may just be a bug but I'm listing it as a con - a number of times the Stadia homepage just wouldn't load. I was left staring at the Stadia logo wondering what was going on for minutes at a time. I'd have to close out of the browser and restart. Not sure if that's an issue with Chrome, but it seemed to happen on Edge browser as well.
Stadia-specific versions of games. Now, hear me out - usually this is a PRO not a con, but in Stadia’s case it seems to be a con as making a wholly new build of a game for a specific platform probably just isn’t in the cards for a lot of developers. That could be what’s slowing down a lot of games coming to Stadia - the time and money required to build a new version of the game. Hopefully we see some “Stadia first” games that will convince other developers to jump on board.

Xbox Game Pass / Game Pass Unlimited / Gold / Live / Play Anywhere / xCloud / Whatever it's being called these days

Notable Games: Nier: Automata BAG Edition, Dragon Quest XI S, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
Xbox Game Pass gets added to this list on a pure technicality.
So, technically Xbox Game Pass isn't a streaming service, but I include it because on Android, there actually is a "cloud" option for playing your console Game Pass library. The Cloud streaming works surprisingly well, but you're limited to either an Android tablet or phone because it doesn't seem to work properly on Android TV. I've heard you can sideload onto the nVidia Shield, but that was beyond the scope of what I was trying to accomplish with these reviews...I just want something I can pick up and play. So, yeah if you don't mind playing on your phone, Game Pass Cloud is actually probably the best of the bunch in terms of ease of use and game selection. There are so many things I want to play on Game Pass it's actually a little overwhelming. However, I don't want to stare at a 5" screen for hours to do so.
Pros

Wide game selection with lots of games being added every month (almost every week, seems like)
Broad game selection - seems to be some standouts from just about every game genre. I know this seems like a repeat of point one, but they're very different things - it's one thing to just throw a ton of games on your service, its another to make sure you're representing every genre out there, which Game Pass seems to do more admirably than any other service.
Streaming seems to work just fine. I was able to play Dragon Quest: Inquisition on my Android phone with very little issue. Couple of times the connection dropped, but it was no better or worse than Stadia.
It seems like services are stumbling all over themselves to get included in Game Pass.

Cons

Again, inconsistent experience. Offerings are different on console than on PC...why is Torchlight III a console exclusive? Why are all the good games pushed to console and cloud, with PC being an afterthought?
Games seem to come and go randomly - some popular games pop up for a few months and are gone, other seemingly niche titles have been on the service since launch
Probably the biggest con - no streaming on PC, iOS, or Android TV. Baffling choice. Maybe there's business reasons I'm not aware of, but as a user, it's maddening.
Minor point, but good lord Microsoft needs to simplify EVERYTHING related to Xbox. No one can figure out what the hell service we have when I try to talk to people about it - there's Game Pass, but there's also Games with Gold, then there's Live, then there's Game Pass Ultimate, but there's also Play Anywhere, which isn't really a service, just some sort of cross-play, And the number of times people thought I have a Series X when I actually have a One X was insanely frustrating as well. I know this doesn't have anything to do with the service, but jeez man why is everything Microsoft does so haphazard?

Whew! I actually had way more to say on this topic than I thought, I guess. I've probably spent more time and energy on this than I should have, but working from home has given me a lot of time on my hands, so hopefully my experiences can help save someone else some time and effort. Would love some counterpoints as well!

Just wanted to share my experience today setting up Shadow on the Fire TV Stick. Played Star Wars: Fallen Order on ultra settings without a hiccup.
Here's the hardware list for setup:

Shadow Boost using Quadro P5000 GPU.
4K Fire TV Stick
8bitdo SN30Pro controller
iOS or Android device
Television (obviously)

The Firestick is located close to our 5G router. It's a basic router that came with the cable service. You can setup anywhere in the house, given you have a mesh network in your home (pods supplied by cable service that extend WiFi around your home).
Instructions:

The Firestick comes with an extender cable in the box. This I believe boosts the WiFi signal, so suggested to plug it in.
Connect your controller to the Firestick. XBOX controllers are best, but the cheaper SN30Pro works, since it has the same buttons essentially, and is well-built.
Install "Mouse Toggle" app on Firestick. This gives you mouse functionality needed later. Follow this guide to install it, and despite comments, you can use the 4K Firestick link provided in the article. It works: https://www.firesticktricks.com/mouse-toggle-firestick.html
Install "Downloader" app on Firestick (covered in guide above).
Within Downloader app, navigate to APKMirror and download/install the latest Shadow build for Android. I used the 3.4.4 BETA: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/blade-group/
On your mobile phone or tablet, install the "Fire TV" app from official app store. This gives you a bluetooth keyboard needed later. Once downloaded, connect it to your Firestick using the code provided on screen.
Go to your computer and fire up Shadow PC. If like me you have games on several platforms like Steam, Epic, Amazon, Origin, etc., you'll want to access your installed games that utilize a controller in one interface on the Firestick.
Open Steam, and add the games you want to show up on the Firestick from each platform. Installed Steam games will show up in your library automatically, as you'll be using Steam's Big Picture Mode to navigate on the stick. Games from other platforms must be manually added. Here's a guide: https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/how-to-add-games-to-steam-library/ "scroll to section: Add non-Steam games from other services (such as GOG.com)".
A few tips - favorite the games in Steam you've manually added from other platforms. In this way, they stay separated from your main Steam library for easy removal later. Also, you likely will want to rename the games in Steam as they take on the game's executable file name (which is not pretty).
In Steam settings > Interface > enable “Run Steam when my computer starts” and “Start Steam in Big Picture Mode”.
In Shadow settings, set your bandwidth to a few Mbps lower than recommended, to ensure smooth playback. In my case, they recommended 20 Mbps. I set it to 10 Mbps.
Shut down your Shadow session, note your Shadow username/password, and return to the Fire TV Stick.
Open Shadow app on the Firestick. Login with your credentials. You can use the standard Firestick remote for this part with its built-in keyboard.
Once credentials are entered, you'll be presented with a 6-digit confirmation code sent to your email to approve the connection. Open the "Fire TV" app on your phone and with its keyboard, enter the 6 digits in the email. Then click the "Continue" button in Shadow.
Shadow will ask to convert your Shadow PC to Beta version. This is OK, as it only does it for the session, and nothing gets messed up. When you open Shadow on your computer later, it'll revert back to regular Windows 10 with all your stuff intact.
You should be greeted by Steam in Big Picture Mode when it boots up. From there you can navigate to your installed games library using your XBOX or generic game controller. Launch a game and Bob's your uncle.
If like me you have some Star Wars games from EA, you'll likely need to login to Origin again on the Firestick. Using a combination of "Mouse Toggle" and "Fire TV" apps, you can navigate the Origin login process since it requires keyboard and mouse input. For Mouse Toggle, you press play/pause button twice to enable it, then up/down to move the mouse.
A quick note about bandwidth. The Shadow android app has its own bandwidth setting independent from the standard desktop Shadow settings. By default, it was set to 5 Mbps, so I set it to 10 Mbps (as I know my network can handle that), but YMMV.
It's worth noting that you should keep at least 1GB of storage free on your Firestick at all times for best performance, and the Shadow app uses roughly 55MB of storage space. It keeps next to no additional data or cache. I was pretty shocked at how light it is!

I wanted to document this process in case it helps anyone else. I've heard the 4K Fire TV Stick flakes out on others, but as of January 2021 I had zero issues playing Fallen Order for an hour with the best graphic settings. Also I didn't notice any compression artifacts on a 52" 1080p LCD TV.
I don't believe the 30 minute inactivity shutdown is a problem with the android app, so IMO it's worth moving longer gaming sessions to the TV. Less chance of losing in-game progress when you step away for an exercise break.
Stay healthy gamers!

EDIT: Wanted to give an update since I mentioned I get connection drops. I've been playing various games on Stadia for the past two days without a single connection drop after wiring up the CCU. I had one small network blip maybe yesterday but since the CCU is wired now it came back almost instantly. Seems to be working great for the past couple days and I expected massive network saturation due to the Christmas holidays, even bought a disgusting amount of games in the recent sale.
Long story short, I've been waiting for an Xbox Series S to be in stock forever, and an RX 6800, and well you know the rest. I decided to give Stadia a really good try and so far it's been excellent. The connection does drop sometimes, but I have my CCU wired so it comes back immediately. I bought Cyberpunk and got the free premier edition and I have to say, it's a completely different experience than playing on a web browser. Basically Stadia has become my new next-gen gaming console and it's awesome!
The CCU is more reliable, more stable, and overall more enjoyable to use than playing through a web browser. Yes you can force 1440p and 4k through extensions, but the CCU is just rock solid in terms of quality and stability. The controller, wow, I love it, it fits my hands perfectly, the joysticks feel great, the quality is top notch and the wifi connection reduces latency enough that you can simply adapt and use the latency like it's a part of your joystick deadzone. The biggest advantage I've found is no longer needing to install some of the games on my PC that could be taking up a significant amount of space, such as Elder Scrolls Online. I can play ESO with PC players, and I own it and Greymoor on Stadia, so why would I want to download and install 150GB of data to my PC when I can just stream it and be up and running instantly?
Right now I have a gaming PC, Xbone S, and Switch, and Stadia has gotten more playtime in the past week than anything else I own, it's amazing. Does the connection drop every so often? Yes. Is there noticeable latency even when using the Stadia controller? Yes. Can you realistically adapt to the latency and eventually get to a point where it's a non-issue? Yes. Stadia is great, and I hope the Stadia team continues to build on the technology in ways that are innovative and beneficial. Things like, buffering static assets that don't need to be loaded in real-time such as textures for levels or skyboxes. I would also like to see more crossplay, I know that's up to the devs, but helping those devs achieve that crossplay functionality would be great.

Got invited to try Luna this weekend. I’m a Stadia Founder, and have been a Pro member since Day 1. Decided to do an Apples to Apples test of Luna to see how it compares. I used:
Surface Pro 7 on WiFi (5GHz) Xbox One Controller ATT Gigabit Fiber
I figured the best test would be using Grid, as that’s a good game to feel out frame rate and input responsiveness. It’s also in both libraries.
I did 3 races on Luna in free play mode, and then the same 3 races on Stadia. Same tracks, same cars, same settings for controls, difficulty, etc. Both services were set to highest settings available. I installed the Luna App. Stadia was run via the Edge Browser, no plugins or mods to it.
My take? Amazon has some catching up to do. Stadia provides the clearly superior experience across the board. Better audio, much smoother visuals, and better resolution. The Luna stream would chunk and slow down during chaotic sequences, like a crash happening in front of me. I also lost controller input during my second race for about 10 seconds.
Comparing the offerings, Luna is cheaper monthly than Stadia Pro, but personally, the Luna library is weaker than Stadia. Plus, without the ability to purchase games, you are tied to that monthly fee. Seems most of the good games are locked behind the Ubisoft+ subscription, so we’re talking $20+ a month to play what you want to play.
Obviously, we on the Stadia subreddit would prefer Stadia, but after testing both in this way, Stadia is the clear choice for me. Your mileage may vary, but to me, Luna can’t touch Stadia right now. We’ll see what the future brings.
If you’ve tried both, what are your thoughts?

What will you be doing with this PC? Be as specific as possible, and include specific games or programs you will be using.

sold my series x xbox for pc funds..so need a gaming pc, photoshop illustrator, and an everyday computer. games I like to play fortnite, assassin's creed, call of duty, nba2k, madden nfl. haven't played cyber punk but would like to.

What is your maximum budget before rebates/shipping/taxes?

want to be around 1500 or so. definitely under 2k

When do you plan on building/buying the PC? Note: beyond a week or two from today means any build you receive will be out of date when you want to buy.

anytime in near future my old dell is on its last leg. especially now tax filing is near

What, exactly, do you need included in the budget? (ToweOS/monitokeyboard/mouse/etc)

just a tower. have keyboard, mouse,and monitor already. need windows 10 but maybe I get it free or cheap

Which country (and state/province) will you be purchasing the parts in? If you're in US, do you have access to a Microcenter location?

usa illinois micro center is an hour drive from me. have best buy near

If reusing any parts (including monitor(s)/keyboard/mouse/etc), what parts will you be reusing? Brands and models are appreciated.

have 1080p samsung monitor and just an logitech wireless keyboard and mouse

Will you be overclocking? If yes, are you interested in overclocking right away, or down the line? CPU and/or GPU?

don't think so.. is it necessary for my needs?

Are there any specific features or items you want/need in the build? (ex: SSD, large amount of storage or a RAID setup, CUDA or OpenCL support, etc)

need at least 1tb storage.. maybe more ssd

What type of network connectivity do you need? (Wired and/or WiFi) If WiFi is needed and you would like to find the fastest match for your wireless router, please list any specifics.

wired and bluetooth. wife uses a cricut machine

Do you have any specific case preferences (Size like ITX/microATX/mid-towefull-tower, styles, colors, window or not, LED lighting, etc), or a particular color theme preference for the components?

my son would like colors but if it breaks the bank I'm ok without it. i would like alot of room for easy install. color theme doesn't matter

Do you need a copy of Windows included in the budget? If you do need one included, do you have a preference?

window 10 if I can find one cheap

thank you

It all started with me wanting to play Cyberpunk but realizing I don't nor will be able to have a gaming PC that can run it properly. I got a fancy new 4K TV so I wanted some glorious graphics, or at least good graphics with good framerates lol. I started looking around in the Cloud gaming space and found Stadia & GeForce Now. I was kinda skeptical about both (but not anymore) so I thought "Hey, I'm a cloud engineer! I could build this myself!" And so the project began...
It was fairly easy to figure out what to use to be honest. I'm an AWS guy so naturally I wanted to do it there, and it turns out that no other big cloud provider has anything better than what Amazon offers. I decided on the g4dn.xlarge instance type which has 4CPUs, 16GB RAM and an Nvidia T4 GPU (GCP & Azure providers have this instance too btw). Before starting the instance I was wandering about the interwebs on tips & tricks and found Parsec's ready-made solution in the form of a setup script that works for this instance type out of the box. I choose the Windows 2019 Server Base AMI and set up the machine with RDP. Heads up; the script is not super fault tolerant, so make sure to read everything that it displays otherwise you'llo have to start over again, which takes like 20min. The script installs all the drivers and bells and whistles automatically. I logged into my Parsec account during the installation on the server so at the next reboot Parsec started automatically. All I had to do was connect.
After things were running, I Parsec'd into the machine and installed CS:GO because it was honestly just free on steam and it's perfect for testing the setup. To my surprise, everything worked pretty much flawlessly right out of the gate. At this point I was on wifi on my MacBook and using keyboard+touchpad, so the gaming experience wasn't that great but still very playable. There was some input lag tho which I'm gonna talk about in just a second. I also ran some good ol' benchmarks but they turned out pretty sh*tty if I might say so. The numbers basically came back to a GTX 1050Ti category, which I was not happy about but later realized there's something fishy going on. See I am not sure why, but the benchmarking apps report pretty bad test results, but when I play AAA games on the box, I can almost max them out without a fuzz, which is surprising. I am not sure to this day (it's been a week since I started this haha) why the benchmarks are so bad when the power of the GPU while actually playing games is so good.
In fact it's so good that the whole system is running at around 50-60% utilization while playing on 90% maxed out graphics GTA5 and Red Dead Redemption 2 in 4K! I don't really understand how, but the T4 GPU is a beast, even for gaming, which I was a bit afraid of in the beginning. I haven't been able to test with more games but I'll update once I get some time into Cyberpunk. I am not expecting full-fledged graphics on it tho, and also no RTX unfortunately. I will mostly play that game on GeForce Now tho since it's gonna be a better experience, but this DIY Cloud Gamer server will still serve for playing any game that is not on Nvidia's platform. All in all, I'm very happy with this instance type and how smoothly everything is going. I'm using wireless XBOX ONE controller (model a1708) with my MacBook Pro 2020 and it all works great (there was some discussion that this controller doesn't work wirelessly on MacBooks, which is not true). It honestly feels like as if I'm playing the games locally.
Highlights:

Use LAN instead of wifi. This should be a default but I feel the need to say this. Even 5G wifi introduces lagging on quite a consistent basis. Use a cable.
The picture quality and gaming experience is 97% as good as playing locally if your local hardware is proper. There isn't much input lag, or at least not to my all-life console gamer eyes. I play on my TV with the Apple HDMI adapter in 4K. The amount of latency is very much playable, or even unnoticable. Make sure to put your TV into game mode, it matters here.
Parsec is amazing. My MacBook can do H265 encoding which makes a giant difference over H264. My other MacBook is older and can't use that codec, and the difference is very much noticable. It helps a ton with en-/decoding latency & picture quality.
The server is ~500km away from me and I have a pretty good fiber internet connection. Your mileage may vary.
I'm using Spot instances which greatly reduce the costs. I'm not worried about the costs as much because I got AWS credits, but Spot is about $0.4/hour and on-demand is $0.8/hour. Never had a Spot instance taken from me ever tho. Heads up that Spot instances terminate on shutdown, so make sure you uncheck "delete on termination" for your volumes (found out the hard way).

I'm gonna make improvements to the setup of course, this is just a developed POC. For example I want to be able to shout "Hey Siri, turn on the gaming rig" to my HomePod and have it start up everything. This will be solved with Step Functions and a little Lambda magic. After the current instance is terminated, I'll also set up automation to create an AMI from the latest volumes for the new instance ready to be used. So when I tell Siri to turn it on, it's all available under ~3 minutes. After new instance is up & running, it just shows up in Parsec (this is the case right now as well).
What do you think? Ideas, inspiration, feedback and all that is welcome!

Hey everyone, I'm hoping you can give me some advice as to what is causing extremely high spikes of ping. For a long time my brother has been really imposing with our home network, he will get very mad and throw a fit usually if someone needs to download something. My dad will have to update COD sometimes, it's one of his favorite games to unwind playing. My brother will get really mad and just start screaming about the game and how laggy it is even sometimes disconnecting his Xbox from our network if he's taking a nap so that my brother won't be lagged. I know it's pretty horrible, he can't wait for someone to be able to get a update finished that keeps the roof over his head up. We're both older so there is not a lot of excuse for being rude anymore like he acts. He'll get mad when our mom is home from work and is playing a app game on her phone connected to wifi because the adds loading between games will slow him down. It's a sad situation kinda. So back on topic, about 2 years ago For Honor was one of my favorite games and that's when the issue started- I started winning literally every match against the sweatiest players having a lot of fun. Nobody could beat me, and then extremely high spikes of ping started and at first it wouldn't happen more than once or twice a match my ping would shoot up to 200-500 for a split second just enough time to mess up my parry and get me hit with a heavy attack or a few attacks. I know it has to be a program because the lag really seems unnatural, like it's not a variable affected but rather someone is turning it on or off. It sounds crazy but I can tell from the patterns in the lag spikes it totally seems like someone is turning a program on or something plus at first my brother would giggle up a bit when the lag would happen playing For Honor.
At first the lag would happen so briefly it would be hard to notice unless you saw it flash on the scoreboard, I started thinking I was actually awful at the game I was missing every parry and thought I was just on a lucky streak before, but then games where I didn't lag once I would completely destroy the enemy. The lag didn't affect him either, I never heard him get mad about 100-500 ping up until half a year ago March-June when he realized it doesn't make sense he has no problem playing online, he started acting like he was hitting these ping spikes which that wasn't possible because it literally makes playing online impossible for me. Some days it doesn't even happen at all when he's in a good mood, and it happens less when it seems like he's sleeping. I know for a fact he stays up watching videos on his phone until when he thinks I must think he's asleep just to do it a few times.
Here is the table data from Ping-Test, I'm having these random high spikes that last for a few seconds of 200-600 ping. "1";"Ping Test: US - Washington";"51";"53";"54";"54";"54";"53";"52";"48";"55";"52";"52";"54";"1749";"54";"53";"54";"1286";"51";"1154";"2263";"54";"54";"54";"53";"59";"691";"53";"52";"52";"52";
"2";"Ping Test: US - San Francisco";"87";"87";"87";"86";"390";"85";"84";"86";"84";"84";"75";"90";"85";"84";"83";"84";"83";"89";"83";"85";"85";"86";"84";"85";"86";"79";"88";"411";"87";"86";
"3";"Ping Test: NL - Amsterdam";"127";"126";"125";"125";"123";
As you can see my ping is normal staying around 30-50 in games, but randomly on the chart I get extremely high spikes of ping. It is obvious that someone is causing this issue on my local network, the duration, intensity, and even context of the ping spikes such as when they happen say someone is causing them to me.
On the home network's router home portal, it is showing a significant amount of errors and packet loss % but only on the ethernet slot that I have my brother and I's ethernet cord splitted into, of which after I noticed and took a picture of my brother cleared the statistic counter on the page. When I looked online at a Traceroute test this is what I got, the first list is from Singapore but it shows what is going on more than the other ping locations.
3.|-- 2604:a880:ffff:9::271 0.0% 4 0.5 0.7 0.5 0.8 0.1
4.|-- 2604:a880:ffff:9:0:1:0:4 0.0% 4 0.9 1.2 0.9 1.4 0.2
5.|-- 2001:4860:1:1::6b8 0.0% 4 1.0 1.7 0.9 3.7 1.4
6.|-- 2001:4860:0:f90::9 0.0% 4 1.6 1.7 1.6 1.8 0.1
7.|-- 2001:4860::c:4000:d475 25.0% 4 2.8 2.3 1.9 2.8 0.5
8.|-- 2001:4860::cc:4001:1da4 50.0% 4 2.1 2.1 2.0 2.1 0.1
9.|-- ??? 100.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
10.|-- ??? 100.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
11.|-- ??? 100.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
12.|-- ??? 100.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
^These last 6 points are a great example of what's going on, the ping location is to Singapore but it is to show a example of the contingency
Dallas-

 1.|-- 2600:3c00::e6c7:22ff:fe10 0.0% 4 0.9 1.0 0.9 1.1 0.1 2.|-- 2600:3c00:2222:16::1 0.0% 4 0.5 0.6 0.5 0.7 0.1 3.|-- 2001:678:34c:5e::2 0.0% 4 1.1 1.2 1.1 1.2 0.1 4.|-- 2001:4860:0:11e4::1 75.0% 4 2.3 2.3 2.3 2.3 0.0 5.|-- 2001:4860:0:1::2b7b 50.0% 4 1.9 2.0 1.9 2.2 0.2 6.|-- 2607:f8b0:4000:817::2004 0.0% 4 1.0 1.1 1.0 1.2 0.1

Amsterdam-

 1.|-- ??? 100.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.|-- fd00:0:1::1 0.0% 4 6.9 7.1 1.0 12.7 4.8 3.|-- 2604:a880:ffff:4:1::1c 0.0% 4 0.9 1.1 0.9 1.3 0.2 4.|-- 2604:a880:ffff:4:1::34 0.0% 4 0.7 0.7 0.5 0.9 0.2 5.|-- 2001:4860:1:1:3:1522:0:1 0.0% 4 0.5 0.6 0.5 0.8 0.1 6.|-- 2a00:1450:80e3::1 0.0% 4 0.6 0.7 0.6 0.9 0.1 7.|-- 2001:4860:0:f8b::1 0.0% 4 1.9 2.0 1.7 2.3 0.2 8.|-- 2001:4860:0:f8b::c 50.0% 4 1.5 1.7 1.5 1.9 0.3 9.|-- 2001:4860::c:4000:d9a9 25.0% 4 0.9 2.8 0.9 6.4 3.2 10.|-- 2607:f8b0:e000:8000::3 25.0% 4 1.4 1.5 1.4 1.7 0.2 11.|-- ??? 100.0 4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.|-- 2a00:1450:400e:80e::2004 0.0% 4 0.7 0.8 0.7 1.1 0.2

What the hell is going on here? Previously I have done the ipv4 test in the runcommand window to ping to different locations, I was getting high ping spikes everywhere so I know it must be a issue with the router or a setting my brother must have changed or the program doing it. It's not the first time he has installed programs to mess with the home network and bottleneck him bandwidth, and when we only had one computer that we would have to share he would install programs to remotely shutdown the computer to try to make me think there was a virus on it that I somehow got on there and wouldn't know how to fix so he wouldn't have to wait for me to have a turn on it. He does not know how to share anything and he gets mad if you don't let him take something from you that he should be sharing with you.
Within the last couple days it has gotten worse which is kinda weird because I started ripping on it a bit, now I'm getting small spikes of up to 1000-3000 ping, the other day I hit 10,000 ping while playing a game and it didn't even kick me until after a few seconds. I'm hoping that someone can suggest a program or a way to trace what is going on in my local network, the ping spikes happen regardless of whether I'm using a ethernet connection or wifi. When I first switched to a ethernet cable and made a point to my brother who was suggesting it was the wifi that was doing it (Allowing him to lag me while keeping his connection and my dad's at top speed without us suspecting anything) at first he as acting like he did something wrong and was trying to cover it up or he was embarrassed. He was hiding in his room a little bit and the ping spikes stopped for a few days and then they came back, I made a comment about it just trash talking about the game and the ping spikes got even worse and slowly but surely he started lagging me on ethernet like he did when I'm on Wifi.
He thinks he is the overlord of our home network and he gets mad when someone else is even just playing a video game online, some nights he even turned off wifi when I was still up playing online because he thinks that he needs to have more bandwidth even though we now have a connection that downloads at 5MB per second.

Good evening, I have the following items to sell and feel free to negotiate. Forgot to say local is Philly 19141
Build:
Case: Corsair Carbide 500R White
CPU: i5-4670k w/ Hyper 212
MOBO: Asrock z87 extreme 6
RAM: Random 2x 8gb ddr3 1600
SSD: Samsung 840 128 gb
HDD: WD Black 1TB
PSU: Rosewill 650w semi modular PSU
Random white LED case fans
I got this computer from a friend and decided to fix her up. It took me some time to get it booted and I believe either 1 or 2 of the ram slots are broken and/or bad ram. I was able to buy some random ddr3 ram sticks and got the computer working by putting the ram in a specific dual channel slot so that was probably the issue but, still could be a bad SSD (most likely not since it boots just fine). Computer works now and got a fresh install of Windows 10 on it. Please be aware of issues with the mobo if you decide to purchase.
~~Want $150 for it and pickup only.~~. Sold Locally
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kvhKEJbWmrBGQMUZ6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1vL2yNSxyqJ7uuHWA

i7-7700k Delidded/Asrock z270 Fatal1ty itx mobo/Noctua L9i heatsink:
Currently in my case now so can't get a good timestamp. Works fine but I had to get a different wifi stand up thingy since I misplaced the old one. The cpu was delidded is not sealed and is held in place by the mobo and heatsink. Thinking about upgrading my SFF pc with a 5600x with a b550 itx mobo. Will not part out.
Want $300 shipped or $270 shipped without heatsink.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FZKW2FsXMErPxTVH6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KmkLUAkKjmpGMVtf6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FZKW2FsXMErPxTVH6

Enermax Revolution 650w SFX PSU:
Had this before I upgraded to a sf750. The psu was rubbing against another component since it was previously in a very tight boutique case but just caused a minor cosmetic imperfection you can see in the picture: Does not come with a 3 prong power cord.
Want $90 shipped or $75 local. Will take $10 off if purchase with the i7/mobo combo
https://photos.app.goo.gl/SA6DJZ3exs5u2GgG6

BNIB Xbox Series S:
Not much to say.
~~Want $450 shipped or $425.SOLD Locally~~
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Do8mLDhPyBqtiW2k6

BNIB Ryzen 7 5800x:
Was all I could get my hands on until I got a 5600x and 5900x to choose from.
~~Want $520 shipped or $500 local. Will also trade (MSRP + Difference + Tax) for PS5, locally~~ SOLD locally
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sd3PtbTrzwXrGwyNA

Zotac GTX 1080ti AMP edition:
Originally bought off a guy here a few years back. He had problems with it and crashing in games so he sold it off for really cheap. I believe the issue with it is that it would boost to such a high clock speed which caused it to crash. Even in games like WoW which isn't GPU intensive at all. I tinkered with it a little more and haven't had issues once i decreased the core clocks by 50-100mhz using MSI Afterburner. Some guy recently had similar issues with a 1080ti zotac card here. Applied new thermal paste and as long you lower the clock specs you should be okay. Please be aware of these issues when purchasing this card. No box, just the bare card itself.
~~Want $300 shipped or $280 local.~~ SOLD
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2jsz5Xdf83R5MbT5A

PowerColor RX 5700XT Red Dragon:
Bought open box from microcenter and have not had any issues with it so far. Was using it in my SFF case and I believe why this GPU is so popular still. Or maybe just the gpu shortage out there.
~~Want $365 shipped or $345 local.~~ SOLD!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/urB4dXjU3r2k7Kce8

Hello, i have some things for sale today. Prices are OBO, include shipping unless item is listed as local only and i can give you a discount if you buy multiple things. ** THINGS WILL BE MARKED OFF IMMEDIATELY ONCE SOLD, SO PLEASE CHECK TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU WANT IS STILL AVAILABLE. I WONT RESPOND TO MESSAGES FOR THINGS THAT ARE SOLD. THANKS!**
Local is 75228 Dallas TX.

What I have	Price	Description	Sold
~~Budget Gaming PC~~	~~$310 Local OBO~~	Pc includes the following specs: i5-3570k oc to 4.4 ghz, 16gb 1600mhz ram, Gigabyte Z77 Motherboard, Deep cool tower cooler, EVGA Gtx 980 Ti 6gb, 600W EVGA power supply, NZXT S340 case, 80gb msata ssd, 500gb hard drive. Nothing wrong with the computer, i just have so many spare parts that i never use. I can also include a 1080p monitor for a little extra if you want. Will come with the power cable only. I'm open now to parting it out, send me offers for parts if you're interested. I can ship if you want but be warned depending on where you live it'll be $50+ to ship.	~~Available~~ Sold to u/wingsnut71
~~PS4 with 500gb ssd and 1 dualshock 4 controller~~	~~$125 shipped~~	I managed to beat the bots and get a ps5, so this ps4 is living it's life as a stand for my monitor now. Will come with the power cord and dualshock 4. On the latest firmware IIRC.Just for transparency, i got the ps4 broken with the white line of death back in september 2019. I fixed it by opening it up, cleaning it out, replacing the thermal paste and putting 4 washers on the apu clamp to put more pressure on the chip. The console has worked flawlessly since, and i have no reason to believe it will have problems any time soon.	~~Available~~ Sold to u/enesup
~~Ryzen 5 1600 AF Bundle~~	~~$310 Shipped~~	Comes with cpu original box and stock cooler. Mobo will come without box, and with the wifi antenna and io shield. Ram is 2666 mhz. Not sure which model the noctua cooler is, but it's quiet and works fine on the 1600. Also not pictured is a 256gb patriot nvme ssd installed on the back.	~~Available~~ Sold to u/FlyBoyNinja
Kraken X41	$40 shipped	Works, problem is it's 140mm and doesn't fit in my Coolermaster elite 110. Only includes intel mounting.	Available
Cable extensions	$18 shipped	1x24 pin cable, 1x8 pin cpu cable and 2x8 pin pcie cables.	Available
~~3X120mm fans and 1x140mm fan~~	~~$22 shipped~~	~~Removed from my case when i changed out the fans. Only will sell together.~~	~~Available~~ Sold to u/MrPick3ls
~~Lepa Exllusion 240mm AIO~~	~~$35 Shipped~~	~~Is a refillable aio with clear tubing. Comes with all the mounting hardware shown and 2 fans.~~	~~Available~~ Sold to u/Tupuno
Coolermaster Elite 130	$20 local pickup	In good condition. Comes with all the hardware pictured and a fan i found lying around installed in the front. I would be willing to trade this locally for a matx case if you have a spare one you don't want anymore.	Available
Dell Optiplex 740	$20 Local ONLY	Works fine. If you replace the hard drive and put a cheap single slot gpu into it it can work alright as a office pc. Has a Phenom x3 8750, 6gb ddr2, 80gb hdd(very slow, trust me), integrated graphics on the chipset(also very slow).	Available
HD 7750	$15 shipped	Card works, but the fan will need to be replaced since it makes a grinding noise when it's running.	Available

I'm also on the search for a variety of pc components. If you have something to offer please pm me (i don't always receive chats for some reason) with timestamps and a price and we can work something out from there.

item i'm looking for	Price	Description	Purchased
8+ core Ryzen 3000 or any Ryzen 5000 chip	Send me offers	I'm upgrading my mini itx pc with my current 3600, so i want a new chip for my main pc	No
~~B550 or X570 ITX board~~	~~$200~~	~~Not pick on brand, just looking for a good deal if y'all got one~~	No Purchased
16gb 3200mhz ram	$50	Not pick on brand, looks don't matter either since it's not going to be visible when it's installed	No
~~120mm~~	~~$40~~	~~Has to be 120mm to fit inside my elite 110 and mount to am4. A nice fan included with it would be nice.~~	No Purchased
500gb+ nvme ssd	Send offers	It's gonna be the only drive in my mini itx pc so it has to be at least 500gb.	No
The disk drive for the OG 2001 Xbox	$20	I'm trying to repair my thrift store $15 Xbox. I got two from the thrift store but only one worked. When researching online for my error code, i discovered that a faulty disk drive was a possible cause for the error. When i swapped disk drives between the two, the broken xbox worked just fine. I know somebody on here has to have made a custom pc inside an xbox chassis. If you kept your parts and happen to have a working disk drive, please let me know!
Old gen gpus(680,7970,Dual gpu cards like gtx 690,hd 6990 )	Send offers	Just looking to pick up some older gpus from back in the day that i wish i could of gotten. I would prefer if they worked.	No
Wiimote, nunchuck, sensor bar, wii power brick	Send offers	Got a wii in another thrift store pickup and i'm looking to get a controller and cables to test it out.	No

Hey there, Slayers!
Happy launch day :)
My name is Jonny and I am one of the Community Managers here at Bethesda, here to help you with your DOOM Eternal needs. It's nice to meet all of you!
We just wanted to make this post to ensure you were all aware of the Launch FAQ and Known Issues document that we prepared for the game. I will copy the latest version of it below but be sure to keep it posted to the Bethesda net forum post as that will be updated with new questions/answers and issues as needed.
Should you have any further questions or issues, we will be in these forums as much as possible. Also remember that you can always view our support page and submit a support ticket here if you're encountering problems too.
Thanks so much for reading. Have fun ripping and tearing!
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3/21 Update: Here are the top searched questions we're seeing through our support FAQ. For additional help, please visit: help.bethesda.net
Top Searched FAQ Items:
1. “ACCOUNT HAS NOT BEEN VERIFIED” - DOOM ETERNAL
If you receive an error stating “This account has not been verified” when creating or attempting to link your Bethesda.net account in DOOM Eternal, this indicates that your Bethesda.net account has not yet been verified. This can also inidicate that you may already have an account created, but not verified through another game, such as Fallout 4 or Skyrim. You can check what account you have linked to your Betheda.net account here: https://bethesda.net/en/accoun...
However, if you have not yet verified your account, you will need to fully verify it before you are able to view the account online. During account creation, a verification email is sent to your Bethesda.net email account. You will be able to verify your account by locating that email and clicking the Verify Account button.
If you have not received the verification email, follow the steps below:
Visit https://account.bethesda.net/.Attempt to sign in to your account.When an error message with a Resend email link appears, click the link to initiate a new verification email. Locate the verification request email in your inbox.Click Verify Account to complete the verification process.Once complete, you will be able to log into your Bethesda.net account.
2. What can I do if DOOM Eternal is crashing on PC?
Please refer to these steps: https://help.bethesda.net/app/...
3. What do I do if DOOM Eternal on PC is having connection issues?
Please refer to our connection guide: https://help.bethesda.net/app/...
4. Why didn't I receive my DOOM Marine skin for linking to Bethesda.net?
Link your Slayers Club account to DOOM (1993), DOOM II, or DOOM 3 classic re-releases, which have the option to link your Bethesda.net account to the game, and receive a retro-inspired DOOM Marine skin and matching nameplate for DOOM Eternal. This will be applied to your account when DOOM Eternal launches and you have linked DOOM Eternal to the same Bethesda.net account. Verify within the classic re-releases that you've both logged in and select "Claim Your Reward."
5. How can I play with my friends in DOOM Eternal?
Please refer to our guide here: https://help.bethesda.net/app/...
Frequently Asked Questions:
What are the supported languages of DOOM Eternal?
The supported languages are listed below:
English/French/Italian/German/Spanish (Spain)/Spanish (Mexico)/Brazilian-Portuguese/Polish/Russian/Japanese - Text and Speech
Simplified Chinese/Traditional Chinese/Korean – Text only
How are languages separated by platform for DOOM Eternal?

On Xbox One and PC (Steam and Bethesda.net), there is a single, worldwide version that includes all supported languages.
On PlayStation 4, there are four regional versions, each supporting a different set of languages:
- Americas - [English, French-Canadian, Brazilian-Portuguese, Spanish (Mexico), Korean]
- EU - [English, French, Italian, German, Spanish (Spain), Russian, Polish, Japanese] JP - [Japanese, English]
- CH - [English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Korean]

What are the technical specs for DOOM Eternal?
Please refer to our full launch guide on Bethesda.net
What are the recommended drivers for DOOM Eternal? (Updated March 20)
Download and Install the latest drivers (based on manufacturer).
NVIDIA:

DOOM Eternal release driver version: 442.74
Download URL: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/doom-eternal-game-ready-drive

AMD:

DOOM Eternal release driver version: 20.3.1
Download URL: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-20-3-1
Win 8 - Radeon Software Adrenalin 2019 Edition 19.10.1 AMD: AMD Link

Where is PC Data stored for DOOM Eternal?

Steam directory is located here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DOOMEternal
Steam saves are located here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata
Bethesda.net directory is located here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda.net Launcher\games
Bethesda.net saves are located here: C:\Users\\Saved Games\id Software

Can I link my Slayers Club (Bethesda.net) account to my console/PC copy of DOOM Eternal to receive my skins immediately?
You can connect your Bethesda.net account to your preferred platform(s) on this linking site.
I see the “Empowered Demons” settings option, but don’t see them in the game.
The Empowered Demons feature will be enabled in a future update. We’ll let you know once this new feature is enabled!
What do I do if I haven’t received my preordedeluxe edition items in DOOM Eternal?
First, ensure that you have redeemed all applicable codes. You may have received a code from your retailer (sometimes printed on the receipt itself). For physical copies, you may want to check with your retailer. If you still have not received your items, you can enter the Bethesda.net settings menu in-game and claim items by selecting Reconcile Entitlements.
What do I do if I see a black screen on PC?
A black screen on launch typically is a result of your graphics card drivers not being up to date, your machine not meeting the minimum system requirements, or an Anti-Virus program blocking or quarantining DOOM Eternal. You should first check to ensure that your machine meets the game’s minimum requirements here and make sure to add Doom Eternal as an exception to your Anti-Virus software.
Download and Install the latest drivers (based on manufacturer)

What can I do if DOOM Eternal is crashing on PC?
We recommend keeping reviewing this helpful article with troubleshooting tips if you’re experiencing issues on PC.
What do I do if I get a black screen in DOOM Eternal on Xbox One? We recommend power cycling your Xbox One if you are stuck on a black screen. To power cycle your Xbox One console:

Turn the console off completely by holding down the power button for three seconds.
Once complete, unplug your power supply from the wall and from your console.
Leave everything unplugged for a few minutes.
Plug your console back in and turn it on.

How will I receive the exclusive DOOM Eternal skins that come from linking the Bethesda Account to DOOM, DOOM II, and DOOM 3?
These items will be granted to the Bethesda Account when DOOM Eternal launches. Be sure you use the same Bethesda.net/Slayers Club accounts on both your classic DOOM titles and DOOM Eternal.
What do I do if I can't progress in an objective in DOOM Eternal?
Sometimes you may be near an objective marker, but it could be on a higher or lower platform. Check your Map to make sure you are at the correct location.
If you are currently blocked by a Demon Gate, a demon may have escaped the area. In most cases they will return to the main arena shortly. If they do not return, restart from an earlier saved checkpoint by selecting Load Checkpoint from the Pause Menu.
If you are unable to load your previous checkpoint, you will have to select Reset Mission or Exit to Main Menu.
How do I use Photo Mode in DOOM Eternal?
Photo Mode is currently in Beta and only available in Mission Select after you have completed a mission in the Campaign mode. You must first enable Photo Mode from the settings menu. Once Photo Mode has been enabled you may press Right-Alt on a keyboard or Down on the D-Pad of a controller to access Photo Mode during gameplay. You can move the camera’s position and view the Slayer in third-person mode. You can also view the Slayer wearing skins that you’ve unlocked.
Known Issues for DOOM Eternal (all platforms):
Gameplay:
Issue: I noticed that my XP was negative after completing a campaign level or a BATTLEMODE match at one point, probably on a Thursday. Does this mean that I lost progress?
Resolution: You didn't lose any progress. This is a cosmetic issue that occurs if you complete a campaign level or a BATTLEMODE match while we are deploying a new Series. We will be correcting this issue in a future patch.
Issue: I've noticed that some of my customized DOOM Slayer skins aren't showing up correctly in BATTLEMODE lobbies and podium screens. Is there anything I can do about this?
Resolution: Resetting all weapon skins to default and reselecting your Slayer and weapon skins from the BATTLEMODE Customization menu will resolve this issue. This issue can also be avoided this if you select your DOOM Slayer character and weapon skins from the main menu's Customization sub-menu before entering BATTLEMODE.
Issue*: I just finished playing a Ripatorium session from the Fortress of DOOM. Can I play another one right away?*
Resolution: You can only play one Ripatorium session per visit to the Fortress of DOOM.
Issue: I'm on my first play-through of the campaign and the Slayer Gate Keys aren't appearing. Is there anything I can do about this?
Resolution: Deactivating Cheat Codes in the Mission Select menu will resolve this.
Issue: I am getting the following message: "No username specified. Please complete account verification." What does it mean and what can I do?
Resolution: There are two possible causes for this message. The good news is that you can continue into the game unimpeded for both cases. 1) Users who have created Bethesda.net accounts without specifying a username in another Bethesda title will see this message. For these users, you will need to complete the steps outlined in the Account Verification email that Bethesda.net sent you at the time of account creation in order to dismiss this message. 2) Some users who have created Bethesda.net user names are also reporting they are seeing this message. This user group is experiencing a delay in backend services that we are working dilligently to resolve. We apologize for the inconvenience and want to remind this user group that they can excuse the message and play the game unimpeded.
Issue: Pinned Weapon challenges on HUD are removed after reloading a checkpoint.
Resolution: Re-pin the Weapon Challenge. This will be addressed in a future patch.
Issue: Weekly Challenges must be re-pinned after beginning a Mission from the Fortress of DOOM.
Resolution: Re-pin the Weekly Challenge. This will be addressed in a future patch.
Issue: Sentinel Status is not always removed consistently from players.
Resolution: Re-accessing the Social Menu will correctly display the Sentinel Status of selected players. This will be addressed in a future patch.
Issue: Saves on Ultra-Nightmare difficulty are not deleted if the game is closed on the Game Over screen.
Resolution: This is an intended function of the Ultra-Nightmare experience. Although the game cannot be progressed on a given save after dying, saves will only be deleted with user permission.
Issue: Player is unable to access the Weapon Wheel if the Weapon Wheel function is bound to the Photomode key (D-Pad down)
Resolution: Do not assign Weapon Wheel to the same function as Photomode.
Issue: Why aren’t my friends receiving my Party invites?
Resolution: In some situations, delivery of party invitations may be delayed. Re-send a party invite if it fails to arrive after a minute or two.
Issue*: I’ve killed all the Demons in the current arena, but demon gates are still blocking me.*
Resolution: Demons may escape from their gates in rare situations. In most cases they return to the main arena shortly. However, if they persistent, restarting from the previous saved checkpoint resolves this issue.
Issue: Can I play a BATTLEMODE match with a friend on another platform?
Resolution: DOOM Eternal currently does not support cross-platform multiplayer
Issue: Can I invite my friends to a private match or party from [Xbox One/PS4/Steam/Bethesda.net/Stadia] system software?
Resolution: You can only currently invite friends to private matches and parties via the in-game Social Menu. Will be updating DOOM Eternal to support system software invites in the near future.
Issue*: The TAB key will stop functioning as a keybind for opening the dossier if the user minimizes the game window with alt-enter.*
Resolution*: In order to restore this functionality, the user needs to first maximize the title, then alt-tab out of the game and alt-tab back into the game.*
Issue*: I have the Bethesda.net PC version of the DOOM Eternal. Is there a way for me to add or remove friends in game or on the Bethesda.net launcher?*
Resolution: The Bethesda.net launcher does currently not have a friends management feature. If you play with users in BATTLEMODE matches you can add them as a "Favorite" and they will show up in the Favorites tab and invite them through the Social menu.
Accounts/Entitlement Redemption:
Issue: My Milestones don't show up when I change save game slots. Is there anything I can do?
Resolution: This is by design. Your Milestone progression is unique to each save game slot.
Issue: Milestone rewards don’t unlock if the player is offline when the Milestone is achieved.
Resolution: This will be addressed in a future patch.
Issue: Is there a way to link my Bethesda.net account out of the game?
Resolution: You can link your Bethesda.net account on the web here: https://bethesda.net/
Issue: I'm on my first play-through of the campaign and the Slayer Gate Keys aren't appearing. Is there anything I can do about this?
Resolution: Deactivating Cheat Codes in the Mission Select menu will resolve this.
Stadia:
Issue: Why am I seeing "This account is already online with DOOM Eternal on another device" on Stadia?
Resolution: In periods of heavy traffic, Stadia players may need up to 3 minutes before being able to access the title on another device with their same account. Close the play session on your current device and wait several minutes before accessing on a second device.
Issue: When I move from one device to another while playing on Stadia, I get a message saying "This account is already online with DOOM Eternal on another device. Please exit DOOM Eternal on other devices and retry." Is there anything I can do about this?
Resolution: Try again in 3 minutes. There is currently a 3 minute cooldown when switching devices while playing DOOM Eternal on Stadia.
PC Technical issues:
Issue: When playing BATTLEMODE as a Pain Elemental on PC, the Lost Souls move erratically when using the Soul Shield ability. Is there anything I can do about this?
Resolution: This happens for some PC users when they are playing with V-Sync disabled. Re-enabling V-Sync should resolve the issue.
Issue: UI elements appear too dim or bright while playing in HDR mode on PC. Is there anything I can do about this?
Resolution: This issue happens when Windows is not set to HDR display mode. Enabling HDR display mode in Windows should mitigate the issue.
Issue I am playing the game on PC and frequently encounter connection lost messages in-game? Is there anything I can do to resolve this?
Resolution: First, make sure you follow standard internet connection troubleshooting steps (ISP service issues, poor WiFi connection, etc.). You will also want to make sure that your Windows Date and Time are set automatically (located in the lower right-hand corner of your Windows task bar).
Issue*: I have an NVIDIA GPU and experience a flickering effect with HDR enabled on my HDR-supported monitor? Is there anything I can do about this?*
Resolution: To resolve this issue, please download and install NVIDIA GPU drivers version 445.75 from the links below:
Win 7: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/159086/en-us
Win 10: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/159091/en-us
Issue: The Automap appears dark on my PC's HDR-capable monitor when HDR is enabled? Is there anything I can do about this?
Resolution: We apologize for the inconvenience. We are working to address this in an upcoming PC patch. If you make heavy use of the Automap, we recommend you play with HDR disabled in the interim.
Issue: When I try to run DOOM Eternal on PC, I get the following error: "The server is not reachable, check your internet connection and click "Retry"". What do I do?
Resolution: To resolve this issue, head to the Control Panel on your computer, go to "Internet Options", select the "Advanced" tab, scroll down to "Security", enable "Use TLS 1.2", and then click "OK".
Issue: I meet the minimum system requirements and have the latest GPU drivers installed, but am experiencing performance and/or stability issues. Are there any troubleshooting steps I can take to ensure the game runs as expected on my system?
Resolution: First make sure that your system actually meets the minimum system spec requirements and has the latest GPU drivers installed. That information is available elsewhere in this FAQ.Users who have confirmed they meet the minimum system requirements and have the latest GPU drivers installed will experience performance and possibly stability issues if they are running settings that are inappropriate for their PC configuration.For best resultsusers who have a GPU that has no more than 4GB of dedicated VRAM should run the game at 1080p at Low Quality settings. Users who have a GPU that has no more than 8GB of dedicated VRAM should run the game at 1440p at High Quality settings (monitor permitting).Because there are so many possible PC configurations, you may need to take a trial and error approach to get the very best reslts for your PC configuration. Reducing Texture and Shadow Quality will be the first option you'll want to experiment with if you are looking for custom game settings.
Issue: I am encountering audio issues (i.e. dropouts, missing audio) when using a bluetooth headset on my PC. What can I do?
Resolution: Your issue may be resolved by turning off "handsfree telephony" on your PC. Head to the "control panel", "view devices and printers", double click the headset you're using, open "properties", select the "services" tab, untick "handsfree telephony" and then select ok.
Issue: Verifying the integrity of game files will cause the game to shut down when loading classic DOOM II from the in-game Hub.
Resolution: We're working on resolving this in a future update. In the meantime, we recommend users avoid using this Steam option unless required to as part of troubleshooting.
Issue: Why am I seeing poor performance while using G-Sync or Freesync?
Resolution: For best performance with these features, enable V-sync from the in-game graphics settings. Note that 3rd party tools configured to limit frame rates may adversely impact performance.
Issue: I have an AMD GPU and HDR monitor, but the game won't run in HDR display mode. What can I do to resolve this?
Resolution:To run the game in HDR display mode on supported monitors, players with AMD GPUs need to have the official DOOM Eternal release drivers (20.3.1). Download them here: https://www.amd.com/en/support...
Issue*: I have the latest GPU drivers installed and meet minimum system specs, but the game doesn't launch correctly or crashes on launch. Is there anything I can do?*
Resolution: For some users, there's a chance you don't have all of the required DirectX files installed. Reinstalling the DirectX runtime libraries from the following location may resolve this issue: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109If reinstalling the DirectX runtime libraries doesn't resolve the issue, there's a chance your motherboard BIOS or CPU drivers are out of date.
For AMD Ryzen CPU users, updating your motherboard's BIOS and Ryzen chipset drivers may resolve this issue. The BIOS and chipset drivers are the links between your hardware and the operating system. Updating to the latest software ensures users have the latest performance and stability enhancements for the platform. To prevent the game crashing on your Ryzen system, please update your BIOS to the latest version using the files and procedures found on the motherboard manufacturer's website. Additionally, you will need to update your chipset drivers which can be found here.
Issue: The specifications published online don’t match the specifications on my boxed copy. Will my PC be able to run DOOM Eternal?
Resolution: Performance optimizations during development resulted in the expectations for performance on the minimum specification to increase for the majority of players. PCs that meet the published back-of-box specifications will still run at those settings, but most users will be able to run at more graphically intensive settings.
Issue: DOOM Eternal fails to launch or crashes while launching on my Laptop.
Resolution: We do not officially support laptop hardware. Laptops that conform to the supported hardware specifications may run DOOM Eternal.
Issue: Game window is resetting to default resolution after removing monitors while game is running.
Resolution: Issue is caused by changing hardware while title is active. Add/remove hardware before launching the game.
Issue*: Does DOOM Eternal support Crossfire for AMD or SLI for NVIDIA GPUs?*
Resolution: DOOM Eternal does not support Crossfire for AMD or SLI for NVIDIA GPUs. If you play the game with Crossfire or SLI enabled, you will experience performance issues or even crash. If you have dual GPUs on your PC, plug both monitors into the primary GPU before you play DOOM Eternal.
Issue*: Game crashes when changing settings to Ultra, Nightmare, or Ultra-Nightmare on some systems using only 8 GB of system RAM with Nvidia GeForce RTX GPUs.*
Resolution: When playing the game on these cards, keep settings at High or increase system RAM to at least 16 GB.
Issue: Game does not launch on Windows 8 with an AMD GPU installed.
Resolution: The latest AMD drivers are incompatible with DOOM Eternal on Windows 8.1. Install the AMD Radeon driver version 19.10.1 in order to play DOOM Eternal.
Issue: Game or PC crashes when turning off Vertical Sync while OBS is open.
Resolution: The DOOM Eternal game-ready drivers from AMD resolves this issue. This can also be worked around setting V-Sync to “On”, “Adaptive”, or “Triple Buffered” on older AMD GPU driver releases.
Issue: Game crashes when launched on Intel or AMD integrated graphics chipsets.
Resolution: Integrated Graphics options are not supported.
Issue: Some areas of the screen are obscured by large numbers of black particles.
Resolution: If the issue is encountered, assuming you are able to run the game, disabling the Depth of Field option will resolve this issue.
Issue: Game loads to a black screen when launching in full-screen mode.
Resolution: This issue is caused by the DOOM Eternal executable getting quarantined by an Anti-Virus program. Add an exception to your Anti-Virus program to resolve.
Issue*: The game won't launch on my laptop.*
Resolution: Make sure that the laptop uses its dedicated GPU and that the laptop is plugged into power. (This may also help with some desktops that use mother boards that have integrated GPUs.) Your NVIDIA driver needs to be setup to pick the dedicated GPU.
Issue: Game performance is degraded while playing with external software overlays enabled, such as MSI Afterburner, ReShade and others. There is also a known issue with the Steam overlay that can result in performance degradation.
Resolution: Disable any external software overlay to improve performance. You may also want to try disabling the Steam overlay. Please use the in-game performance metric display to track FPS and other valuable runtime performance metrics.
Console Known issues:
Issue: DOOM Slayer fist remains on screen and player is unable to change to any weapon
Resolution: Reloading the previous checkpoint resolves the issue.
Issue*: I'm a console player and the game crashes when I try to play the original DOOM or DOOM II from the Fortress of DOOM. Is there anything I can do?*
Resolution: We appologize for the inconvenience. We are working to address this in our next console update. Stay tuned for more details.
PS4 Known issues:
Issue*: I'm encountering an error that says "You do not have permission to access this content."*
Resolution: Check your "addons" in DOOM Eternal and make sure the campaign is downloaded. If it is and you can't access the game, go into PS4 Settings > Account Management > Restore Licenses. Once the licenses restore you should no longer see this message and can play the game.
Xbox One Known issues:
Issue*: For physical copies of DOOM Eternal on Xbox One, users must download the available patch which allows users to properly unlock achievements. It is highly recommended that owners of physical copies download that update. If a user with a disc copy of DOOM Eternal bypasses the update, achievements will not be unlocked.*
Resolution*: To prevent the issue, please ensure you have downloaded the patch (1.0.0.6). Digital copies of DOOM Eternal will automatically download the patch.*
If you’ve bypassed the patch and have played the game, in order to resolve the issue, the user must delete all title-associated save data from 'Manage games' and repeat the achievement criteria in an online state to unlock achievements after this issue occurs.
Issue: Pre-Order / Deluxe items purchased from the Xbox One store may not immediately appear in game.
Resolution: Items are guaranteed to be awarded over a period of time, but to speed up this process, players can enter the Bethesda.Net settings menu and claim items by selecting the “Reclaim Entitlements” option.
Issue: The initial chunk for the game has installed, but I’m unable to launch the campaign
Resolution: DOOM Eternal requires the title to be fully installed before starting a new campaign. Please wait for the install to complete and try again.
Issue: I’ve installed the DOOM Eternal (Campaign) from disc, why can’t I start a new campaign?
Resolution: In order to play the campaign, all components of DOOM Eternal must be installed from disc (both BATTLEMODE and Campaign). After inserting the disc, select ‘Install All’ to ensure your ability to play.

Hello, i have some things for sale today. Prices are OBO, include shipping unless item is listed as local only and i can give you a discount if you buy multiple things. If you buy tonight i can ship out tomorrow afternoon. ** THINGS WILL BE MARKED OFF IMMEDIATELY ONCE SOLD, SO PLEASE CHECK TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU WANT IS STILL AVAILABLE. I WONT RESPOND TO MESSAGES FOR THINGS THAT ARE SOLD. THANKS!**
Local is 75228 Dallas TX.

What I have	Price	Description	Sold
~~Budget Gaming PC~~	~~$310 Local Only OBO~~	Pc includes the following specs: i5-3570k oc to 4.4 ghz, 16gb 1600mhz ram, Gigabyte Z77 Motherboard, Deep cool tower cooler, EVGA Gtx 980 Ti 6gb, 600W EVGA power supply, NZXT S340 case, 80gb msata ssd, 500gb hard drive. Nothing wrong with the computer, i just have so many spare parts that i never use. I can also include a 1080p monitor for a little extra if you want. Will come with the power cable only.	~~Available~~ Sold to u/bjackson171
PS4 with 500gb ssd and 1 dualshock 4 controller	$125 shipped	I managed to beat the bots and get a ps5, so this ps4 is living it's life as a stand for my monitor now. Will come with the power cord and dualshock 4. On the latest firmware IIRC.Just for transparency, i got the ps4 broken with the white line of death back in september 2019. I fixed it by opening it up, cleaning it out, replacing the thermal paste and putting 4 washers on the apu clamp to put more pressure on the chip. The console has worked flawlessly since, and i have no reason to believe it will have problems any time soon.	Available
~~Evga CLC 240~~	~~$65 Shipped~~	~~Works fine, i just got a bigger cooler for when i get a beefier cpu. Will come with mounting for intel/am4 and the original fans.~~	~~Available~~ Sold to u/bigsnyder98
Ryzen 5 1600 AF Bundle	$310 Shipped	Comes with cpu original box and stock cooler. Mobo will come without box, and with the wifi antenna and io shield. Ram is 2666 mhz. Not sure which model the noctua cooler is, but it's quiet and works fine on the 1600. Also not pictured is a 256gb patriot nvme ssd installed on the back.	Available
Kraken X41	$40 shipped	Works, problem is it's 140mm and doesn't fit in my Coolermaster elite 110. Only includes intel mounting.	Available
Cable extensions	$18 shipped	1x24 pin cable, 1x8 pin cpu cable and 2x8 pin pcie cables.	Available
3X120mm fans and 1x140mm fan	$22 shipped	Removed from my case when i changed out the fans. Only will sell together.	Available
Lepa Exllusion 240mm AIO	$37 Shipped	Is a refillable aio with clear tubing. Comes with all the mounting hardware shown and 2 fans.	Available
Coolermaster Elite 130	$20 local pickup	In good condition. Comes with all the hardware pictured and a fan i found lying around installed in the front. I would be willing to trade this locally for a matx case if you have a spare one you don't want anymore.	Available
Dell Optiplex 740	$20 Local ONLY	Works fine. If you replace the hard drive and put a cheap single slot gpu into it it can work alright as a office pc. Has a Phenom x3 8750, 6gb ddr2, 80gb hdd(very slow, trust me), integrated graphics on the chipset(also very slow).	Available
HD 7750	$15 shipped	Card works, but the fan will need to be replaced since it makes a grinding noise when it's running.	Available

item i'm looking for	Price	Description	Purchased
8+ core Ryzen 3000 or any Ryzen 5000 chip	Send me offers	I'm upgrading my mini itx pc with my current 3600, so i want a new chip for my main pc	No
B550 or X570 ITX board	$200	Not pick on brand, just looking for a good deal if y'all got one	No
16gb 3200mhz ram	$50	Not pick on brand, looks don't matter either since it's not going to be visible when it's installed	No
120mm aio	$40	Has to be 120mm to fit inside my elite 110 and mount to am4. A nice fan included with it would be nice.	No
500gb+ nvme ssd	Send offers	It's gonna be the only drive in my mini itx pc so it has to be at least 500gb.	No
The disk drive for the OG 2001 Xbox	$20	I'm trying to repair my thrift store $15 Xbox. I got two from the thrift store but only one worked. When researching online for my error code, i discovered that a faulty disk drive was a possible cause for the error. When i swapped disk drives between the two, the broken xbox worked just fine. I know somebody on here has to have made a custom pc inside an xbox chassis. If you kept your parts and happen to have a working disk drive, please let me know!

What I have	Price	Description	Sold
Budget Gaming PC	$325 Local Only OBO	Pc includes the following specs: i5-3570k oc to 4.4 ghz, 16gb 1600mhz ram, Gigabyte Z77 Motherboard, Deep cool tower cooler, EVGA Gtx 980 Ti 6gb, 600W EVGA power supply, NZXT S340 case, 80gb msata ssd, 500gb hard drive. Nothing wrong with the computer, i just have so many spare parts that i never use. I can also include a 1080p monitor for a little extra if you want. Will come with the power cable only.	Available
PS4 with 500gb ssd and 1 dualshock 4 controller	$150 shipped	I managed to beat the bots and get a ps5, so this ps4 is living it's life as a stand for my monitor now. Will come with the power cord and dualshock 4. On the latest firmware IIRC.Just for transparency, i got the ps4 broken with the white line of death back in september 2019. I fixed it by opening it up, cleaning it out, replacing the thermal paste and putting 4 washers on the apu clamp to put more pressure on the chip. The console has worked flawlessly since, and i have no reason to believe it will have problems any time soon.	Available
Evga CLC 240	$70 Shipped	Works fine, i just got a bigger cooler for when i get a beefier cpu. Will come with mounting for intel/am4 and the original fans.	Available
Ryzen 5 1600 AF Bundle	$320 Shipped	Comes with cpu original box and stock cooler. Mobo will come without box, and with the wifi antenna and io shield. Ram is 2666 mhz. Not sure which model the noctua cooler is, but it's quiet and works fine on the 1600. Also not pictured is a 256gb patriot nvme ssd installed on the back.	Available
Kraken X41	$40 shipped	Works, problem is it's 140mm and doesn't fit in my Coolermaster elite 110. Only includes intel mounting.	Available
Cable extensions	$20 shipped	1x24 pin cable, 1x8 pin cpu cable and 2x8 pin pcie cables.	Available
3X120mm fans and 1x140mm fan	$25 shipped	Removed from my case when i changed out the fans. Only will sell together.	Available
Lepa Exllusion 240mm AIO	$40 Shipped	Is a refillable aio with clear tubing. Comes with all the mounting hardware shown and 2 fans.	Available
Coolermaster Elite 130	$20 local pickup	In good condition. Comes with all the hardware pictured and a fan i found lying around installed in the front. I would be willing to trade this locally for a matx case if you have a spare one you don't want anymore.	Available
Dell Optiplex 740	$20 Local ONLY	Works fine. If you replace the hard drive and put a cheap single slot gpu into it it can work alright as a office pc. Has a Phenom x3 8750, 6gb ddr2, 80gb hdd(very slow, trust me), integrated graphics on the chipset(also very slow).	Available
HD 7750	$15 shipped	Card works, but the fan will need to be replaced since it makes a grinding noise when it's running.	Available

item i'm looking for	Price	Description	Purchased
8+ core Ryzen 3000 or any Ryzen 5000 chip	Send me offers	I'm upgrading my mini itx pc with my current 3600, so i want a new chip for my main pc	No
B550 or X570 ITX board	$200	Not pick on brand, just looking for a good deal if y'all got one	No
16gb 3200mhz ram	$50	Not pick on brand, looks don't matter either since it's not going to be visible when it's installed	No
120mm aio	$40	Has to be 120mm to fit inside my elite 110 and mount to am4. A nice fan included with it would be nice.	No
500gb+ nvme ssd	Send offers	It's gonna be the only drive in my mini itx pc so it has to be at least 500gb.	No
The disk drive for the OG 2001 Xbox	$20	I'm trying to repair my thrift store $15 Xbox. I got two from the thrift store but only one worked. When researching online for my error code, i discovered that a faulty disk drive was a possible cause for the error. When i swapped disk drives between the two, the broken xbox worked just fine. I know somebody on here has to have made a custom pc inside an xbox chassis. If you kept your parts and happen to have a working disk drive, please let me know!

EDIT: Current as of 11/13/2020
Please let me know if you have any questions!
All prices negotiable AND slashed from the last sale thread- no extreme lowballs! Prices are SHIPPED within continental US (with some exceptions). In that case, PM me your zip. Orders under $15 will have a $3 shipping charge. Will do solid bundle deals! Local gets a discount appropriate for subtraction of shipping.
I do professional PC, laptop, and game repair part time. Know that the items you receive have been services with capable and caring hands. I put a lot of time into some of these items and care about the quality of my work.
Local is 14226 (Buffalo, NY area).
Obviously payment is made by PayPal goods and services.
Items priced at $1 are considered CLOSE OUT. You can request those for free with your order within reason (like… Don’t request a bunch of free stuff if you bought $13 total).
I'm also donating 10% of all funds received to the International Anti-Poaching Foundation :D (+$70 donation sent last thread!)
Timestamps and items: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AKLWxpyvxlU7q4B_oUCs5N8Xs7eyyDRH?usp=sharing
This is a huge list that took me some time, so... please pardon my dust :D
This list will be left up for quite a while, items will slowly make their way to eBay or other market places after a couple weeks.
Please make sure you want the items you pay for! PayPal no longer refunds the seller fees when a seller issues a refund. If you request to cancel after paying, but before shipping, I end up eating the seller fee. PayPal Policy

The default refund period is 180 days from the transaction date. If you refund a payment for goods or services, there are no fees to process the refund, but the fees you originally paid as the seller are not returned to you. The amount of the refunded payment will be deducted from your PayPal account.

Item	Cost	Description
ADATA SU800 2TB 2.5” SSD	$180	SSD was used briefly as a game drive, but I no longer have room for a 2.5” in my itty bitty SFF build. Barely used. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Flxj4RZvt4DMaPMRVai-8cgTSxmkg3aI?usp=sharing

LAPTOPS https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1MiyjO-KBcEe_S3LhWo58rwDf8n6xchhU?usp=sharing

Item	Cost	Description
~~Silver Alienware m17x R1~~	$400	Win 10 Home Activated, Intel Core2Duo P8600, 8gb (4gbx2) @1333mhz, 1920x1200@60hz RGBLED, 1GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260m, 320gb HDD (Win 10 and drivers installed), Blu-Ray/DVDRW Drive. Great condition, recently cleaned inside and out with new thermal pads and paste. Thoroughly tested. Comes with both HDD caddies and screws. RGBLED is an amazing screen, plus Blu-Ray Drive makes this an amazing media PC. Ready for your CPU and GPU upgrades if you choose as well. Will be shipped with the Dell XPS Laptop Backpack below and a sealed, never worn, Alienware hat. Backpack will be free of charge. Highly recommend dropping an SSD in as at least a boot drive! Screen is near flawless and was purchased new as part of the upgrade process of this project. Left side USB 2.0 ports do not work, right side ports work AND I will include free the below USB 3.0 express card (faster than the stock USB ports) Power adapter and cord included.
Startech.Com 2 Port Flush Mount ExpressCard 54mm SuperSpeed USB 3.0	$30	ECUSB3S254F, works perfect!
~~Dell XPS Laptop Backpack~~	$40	~~Huge bag capable of holding tons of books, a huge 17-18" laptop, chargers, and more!~~
~~Black Alienware m17x R1~~	$275	Win 10 Home (Not activated, but Windows 7 key on laptop is valid. You can do the upgrade through Win 7 free for activation and pop the HDD back in or drop an SSD in for a clean install. Grab the drivers and instructions I have on the desktop off first though). Intel Pentium T4400 Dual Core CPU @2.20 GHz, 4gb (2x2gb) DDR3 Ram @1066mhz, 1920x1200@59hz CCFL LCD Display, 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870 GPU, 60gb HDD, DVD-RW Drive. Check pics for minor cosmetic damage at front left speaker, I didn’t realize until I was done refurbishing the laptop that the bottom panel was slightly bent. The top panel is new and still has the protecting seal on it. Screen is in great condition. Will be shipped with the Alienware Orion bag below for no additional cost. New thermal pads and paste applied. Power adapter and cord included.
~~Alienware Orion M17x Messenger Bag~~	$30	~~ScanFast TSA Checkpoint Friendly 17.3-Inch Gaming Laptop bag. One of the carrying handles is missing at the top, but doesn't effect usage as a messenger bag. Great condition otherwise.~~
~~Red Alienware m14x R1~~	$400	Win 10 Home Activated, Intel i7-2630QM, 8GB (2x4gb) DDR3 @1600mhz, 1366x768@60hz LCD Display, Intel HD Graphics 3000, 3GB Nvidia GeForce GT 555m, TC Sunbow 480 GB SATA3 SSD (literally only used to install the OS and get it running), DVD-RW slot load drive. This is an excellent PC overall for daily use! Super fast boot time, unlocked BIOS purchased and installed, played some Fall Guys to test :D. Subtract $50 if you do not want the 480GB SSD. Shiny Red skin is installed to protect case and cover blemishes. M14x was known for having a strange exterior material on the keyboard/wrist wrest area that became stick. Rather than spending a lot on new parts, I opted for a skin and did my best to apply. Skin is not perfect, but makes for a solid laptop overall. Given new thermal pads and paste which made the laptop nearly silent during most usage. WEBCAM DOES NOT FUNCTION. Has an English/Arabic keyboard. Power adapter and cord included, cables function fine BUT the plastic shielding is crumbling for some unknown reason.
~~HP Envy 17 with Beats Audio~~	$250 without storage	Win 10 Home Activated, i7-4700MQ, 16 GB DDR3 1600 mhz, 1920x1080@60hz, Intel HD Graphics 4600, 2GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 740m, 128 GB Intel SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate 2.5” HDDs. Minor scratches to exterior, minor marks on screen (see pics). $60 per 2TB HDD, $20 for SSD Will include below DVD drive for free if purchasing drives, otherwise I’ll reinstall it before shipping. Very easy to remove and reinstall. Power adapter and cord included.
~~HP DVD-RW Burner Drive SU-208~~	$5	~~This is pulled from the HP Envy, I can reinstall it. The DVD drive was replaced with an SSD and storage drive caddy. DVD drive is fully working~~

PS VITA https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jAC24jk8hQ-Q2pEihDlpTExCLtTz6Pnp?usp=sharing

Item	Cost	Description
Blue PS Vita 1000 with CFW	$200	Latest custom firmware installed. Comes with 8gb PS Vita Memory Card, 16gb MicroSD with SD2Vita adapter in game cart slot. System is essentially new - the protecting plastic is still on the brand new OLED screen and rear touchpad. Original parts taken from a Japanese PS Vita with a broken screen. Does not have a charger, but will come fully charged (I only have one for my personal vita).
Need For Speed Most Wanted Game	$10	Game only, no case. A really good Vita racing game!
Game Card Case	$1	I’ll include this free with NFS or the Vita

GAMES AND ACCESSORIES https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11lX-63dZJKCmbBN-uBM5-nY4Z0hpCf6i?usp=sharing

Item	Cost	Description
Corsair Scimitar PRO Wired Optical Gaming/MOBA/MMO Mouse with RGB Lighting - Yellow	$45	Excellent condition mouse! So many buttons and colors! I use a wireless set up, so no more need for this trusty mouse. Excellent condition.
Lego Dimensions Fantastic Beasts Story Level Pack	$15	New/Never Opened
PC Classic: Atomic Bomberman CD	$1	Classic game CD, mid 90s game, basically a collectors item.
Dreamcast GameShark CDX with Required Memory Adapter	$15	Dreamcast cheats and network enabler!
Dreamcast Web browser (Orange)	$1	I’m sure this is very useful for someone?
Saturn Virtua Cop	$5
Saturn Bootleg Sampler	$3
PSX Chrono Cross Manual	$3	Green label
Genesis Madden 94 Manual	$1	1994 GOTY
Genesis Sonic 3 Manual	$2

SONY

Item	Cost	Description
PS3 Eye Cameras	$5	(2 Available) I used these to set up PSmoveservice and use the PSVR with my PC, which works surprisingly well! Moved on to a different VR set up.
PS2/PS3 Composite Cable	$3
PS2/PS3 Component Cable	$5
Replacement PS3 Controller Battery with charging cable	$5	New in box/never used. Purchased a few months ago while refurbing a bunch of controllers.
PS Gold Headset Faceplates	$1	Minor wear, maybe paint these and customize your headset?
PS4 That’s You!	$2	New/Sealed
PS3 Sports Champions	$1	In case, good condition
PS3 Vanquish	$3	Generic Gamestop Case

NINTENDO

Item	Cost	Description
~~Donkey Konga Bongos~~	~~$15~~	Will require $5 shipping charge.
Wii System Stand	$1	has slots for 2 game cases, sd cards, and console
~~Wii U Pro Controller Charger~~	$1	Plugs into the mini usb port, only 1 attachment included, works great.
Nintendo DS/3DS Pink Card Case	$1	Holds games fine, but ‘pages’ aren’t hinged in well.
Nintendo DS/3DS Blue Card Case	$1	Holds games fine, but ‘pages’ aren’t hinged in well.
3DS Skylanders Swap Force	$1	Game works great!
3DS BIT.TRIP SAGA	$8	awesome game!
DS Flower Sun and Rain	$50	Game only, RARE!
DS Lego Indiana Jones	$1	Game only!
Wii Fantasy Aquarium World	$1	Game only!

XBOX FAMILY

Item	Cost	Description
Xbox One IR Receiver Extension	$1	Plugs in to a jack in the back of the Xbox One, useful for if your TV remote or kinect can’t send IR to your xbox due to obstructions.
Xbox 360 Basic Chat Headset	$1	2.5mm jack headset
Xbox 360 Audio Adapter	$1	channels W audio cables into a 3.5mm audio jack
Xbox 360 Dead Space 3	$2	Both disks, works on Xbox One and Series S/X as well.
Xbox 360 Chromehounds	$2	ROBOTS!
Xbox 360 Hail to the Chimp	$2	a lot of the people who made Halo Combat Evolved worked on this abomination
Xbox Halo Combat Evolved (with case)	$4	The game the guys who made Hail to the Chimp made before their magnum opus
Xbox Halo Combat Evolved (no case)	$2	John kills aliens and falls in love with a purple hologram
Xbox Phantom Dust (no case)	$5	For the love of god please play this game. Its free on the Windows store and Xbox One. After you enjoy that, you’ll probably buy this because
Xbox Headset Adapter	$1	Great for smack talking 16 year olds (who are now in their 30s) after losing by 30 in team slayer.
2 Day Xbox Live Gold	$XX	I don’t even know if this works so if you order other stuff just ask.
Gears of War Anya Code	$XX	Play as a girl in the game about mutated steroid bois

EMPTY GAME CASES

Item	Cost	Description
Switch Cases	$2 (each)	Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 1-4
PS4 Case	$1	Sniper Elite III
PC Cases	$1	Anthem, Star Wards Jedi Fallen Order, Titanfall 2, Battlefield 4
The Evil Within Limited Edition (PC)	$2	Cool case for scary time

Desktop PC Parts https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DjhmpC_vhDSM8QGzpGbTMrSxViNVOka4?usp=sharing

Item	Cost	Description
AMD Wraith Stealth CPU Cooler	$10	Brand new, never used, still has original unused thermal paste on it. Never removed from box, was purchased with an R5 3600.
USB 3.1 Gen 2 PCIe Card (2x USB-C Ports)	$30	The item page on amazon is gone, but it is basically this: https://www.amazon.com/FebSmart-10-9-x10-10-x-10-15-x-Build-Self-Powered-FS-C2-Pro/dp/B089YN57TD/ Essentially never used. Was in my PC and had a USB-C to it to transfer photos from my phone 1 time in 6 months. Sold my PC and still have this in original box.
Memory Stick Adapters	$1	3x MicroSDHC to SDHC, 1x Pro Duo to Memory Stick. Just request these if you need these with your order

Laptop PC Parts https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FmCTpfqi-nhPKPTgPWI9eM4Y1qM6XvSA?usp=sharing

Item	Cost	Description
Micron 2GB PC4-19200 DDR4-2400MHz non-ECC Unbuffered CL17 260-Pin SoDimm 1.2V Single Rank Memory Module	$5	MTA4ATF25664HZ-2G3B1 Working pull from... something I worked on within the last 6 months. An HP?
Samsung 2GB 1333Mhz PC3-10600S DDR3-1333	$5	M471B5773DH0-CH9, 204-Pin SODIMM Laptop Memory Ram, Working pull from some laptop I worked on :P
DVD/CD Drive to Hard Drive Caddy	$5	Remove your CD/DVD drive and replace it with another hard drive!
Dell IR Remote	$1	Stores in express card slot. I don't really know what this is for, I assume Windows Media Center but I never used it.
Wireless MPCIe WiFi Card 590020-001	$1	Old wifi card that was upgraded for a previous maintenance job. Just request with your order for free or buy it for some reason.
Broadcom BCM94312HMG MPCIe WiFi Card	$1	Old wifi card that was upgraded for a previous maintenance job. Just request with your order for free or buy it for some reason.
Dell MPCIe WiFi Card E2K112BNH	$1	Old wifi card that was upgraded for a previous maintenance job. Just request with your order for free or buy it for some reason.
Anatel MPCIe Bluetooth Card	$1	Old bluetooth card that was upgraded for a previous maintenance job. Just request with your order for free or buy it for some reason.
Dell 300Mbps Wireless ABGN Half MINI PCI-E WIFI Network Card	$2	42018217-00, Working pull from a Dell/Alienware

Alienware Laptop Parts https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1o4fUVqO0g4T1GqaXxN2hj0SSKYuKKvKx?usp=sharing

Item	Cost	Description
	Dell TS-T633 DVD Writer Optical Drive 2KDGC	$10
Alienware M17 Optical Drive Connector and Ribbon Cable	$4	(ODD Cable and tray) - W850DI
Alienware M17x R2 CPU Heatsink	$6	(2 Available) THA01 RVXVK
Alienware M17x Left Side GPU Heatsink	$20	No retention clips on screws, all screws included.
Alienware M17x Right Side GPU Heatsink	$20	(2 Available) Perfect condition.
Alienware M17x LEFT-side Graphics Cooling Fan	$5	F603N
Alienware M17x RIGHT-side Graphics Cooling Fan	$8	F605N
Alienware m17x R2 Palmrest Sub Assembly (Magnesium Plate)	$11	3MJ0K
Alienware M17x Internal L & R Speaker Set	$4	G242N, these come with the bottom base assembly or purchased separately
Alienware m17x HDD0 Caddy	$10	Screws included for caddy, standard 2.5” SSD/HDD screws not included.
Alienware m17x HDD1 Caddy and Interposer	$20	Y248M (Caddy) TRDD2 (Interposer), Will come with generic screws
Alienware M17x Daughterboard	$10	Audio Ports / USB / ExpressCard Slot IO Circuit Board - F421N, works with m17x R1 or R2
Alienware M17x Center Control Power Button Cover Hinge Cover	$5	W779M - It is the power button, caps/num indicator, etc.
Alienware M17x Palmrest Touchpad Mouse Buttons Assembly	$15	Very good condition Y243M
Alienware M17x CPU Cooling Fan	$5	U012M - Loud fan
CMOS RTC Battery: Alienware M17X	$5	Working, 3 available.
Alienware M17x Laptop Bottom Base Cover Assembly	$15	RED - J181N, with speakers and IR board
nVidia GTX 240m 1GB MXM 3.0a	$15	Working pull from an m15x
Clevo AMD MXM GPU Bracket	$30	Make sure you have the right GPU screws and heatsink, might be able to use it for the 8970m in a m17x r2 upgrade.
Alienware m17x/m15x DVD/CD Drive to Hard Drive Caddy	$6	Remove your CD/DVD drive and replace it with another hard drive! Allows for up to 3 total 2.5" drives in the m17x or 2 in the m15x.

AS IS Parts https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kGkMuJT9i72QYc6zFFYgIfgIpIUBtsUY?usp=sharing

Item	Cost	Description
Alienware M15x 15.6" FHD LCD Screen	$10	SCRATCHES ON EXTERIOR - SEE PICS - FUNCTIONS FINE!, LP156WF1 H162K PV5HJ Bezel
Alienware M17x 17" 1920x1200 CCFL LCD Screen	$10	SCRATCHES ON EXTERIOR - CRACKED LCD (shows image on ⅓ of screen) - Backlight works. Webcam and wifi cables included, LP156WF1 H162K PV5HJ Bezel
Alienware m17x RED LCD Back Cover Lid Panel	$5	J227N Paint has been rubbed off from edges over the years - would be excellent for a DIY project to be repainted. No deep scratches.
Alienware M17x Palmrest Touchpad Mouse Buttons Assembly	$1	Y243M - Motherboard connector missing plastic holder, can be taped to fit. Left mouse button doesn’t move, but works. Front panel by speakers needs glue.
Intel Core2Quad QX9300 CPU	$30	Processor pulled from an m17x R1. It was working when pulled, but in a different motherboard did not work. Can not guarantee function - AS IS.
m14x English/US Keyboard	$5	Missing 2 keys, WASD not working. Can definitely be used to replace keys on your own keyboard. Ebay sellers are selling individual keys for over $5 each!
Alienware m17x BLACK LCD Back Cover Lid Panel	$5	J226N, may need some super glue on the assembly where it meets the grey back plate, easy fix and honestly I could do it but would not want to state it to be in better condition than it is. Has various scratches as well. See pics.
Alienware M17x / M17xR2 Bottom Access Panel Door	$5	C395N, has gashes on panel, see pics.

MISC ELECTRONICS https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18PEr7CUWSaL5xPqzDLrEEUnb0upv6rwJ?usp=sharing

Item	Cost	Description
TaoTronics PC Sound Bar Wired Computer Speaker	$15	Model: TT-SK018 https://www.taotronics.com/products/tt-sk018-sound-bar
Memory Stick Adapters	$1	3x MicroSDHC to SDHC, 1x Pro Duo to Memory Stick. Request these free with your order.
Verizon MI424WR Rev. I FIOS Modem	$5	I have my own router, so I didn't need this.
Verizon MI424-WR Rev. F FIOS Modem	$5	I have my own router, so I didn't need this.
FreedomPOP Wireless Modem	$1	2 Available - I don’t know much about these, I used them with a free freedom pop sim for wireless internet for a short time. Check pictures.
Star Wars Sphero Forceband	$5	Used to control the rolling BB-8 thing by Sphero. https://www.amazon.com/Sphero-AFB01USA-Star-Wars-Force/dp/B01KX211JI

MEMORABILIA AND COLLECTIBLES https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1t-1Pthyn973RVEeCEPVQdXHkEItPhWsV?usp=sharing

Item	Cost	Description
~~Pokemon Badges~~	$5	Rather than engaging in illegal animal fights at planet fitness, earn your badges by buying the full set
Digimon Cards	$XX	See pics for available cards. Angewoman is there so SIDE EYE EMOJI
~~StarCraft 2 Pylon USB Charger~~	~~$25~~	Legacy of the Void - Rare!
Bumblebee Movie mini fig	$1	Lil fella was given to me when I went to see Bumblebee. In the wrapper still. I’ll throw him in your order if you reaaaaaly want it.
Verizon MI424-WR Rev. F FIOS Modem	$5	I have my own router, so I didn't need this.
Avatar The Last Airbender Pin	$1	he looks mad.
4001AD Comic	$1	I own this comic and I’ve never heard of it
Mast Effect Omni Blade Cosplay Toy	$5	Shepherd. (this toy is better than ME:Andromeda)
Finding Dory Toys	$1	You’re probably buying some stuff for yourself from me, so I’ll throw these in for your loved ones. However, might have an upgraded shipping cost (max $5).
CW Arrow Figures	$40	Green Arrow Season 2 design, The Flash and Reverse Flash Season 1 design, multiple accessories. Man those shows were pretty good until they were very bad.

DVD Movies https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1G9Xa-1m-sNlBNWeiImMwfdHmzAAOiRRK?usp=sharing These are $1 each or free with other purchases. I really don't feel like typing them all out at the time of this post, maybe I'll get motivated later :) Check the pictures!

To give a little background on my position I will share my experience. I utilize a 1Gbps fiber connection to the internet in Texas for streaming. I run these services on a Galaxy S10 (stand alone w/Kishi and DeX), a Hisense H9F Android TV, and an upgraded Razer Edge Pro PC (with control module and dock). The following views come from a paying subscriber's perspective. I am a Stadia Founder, a current Shadow subscriber, a Game Pass Ultimate PC subscriber and formerly a Geforce Now (GFN) Founder. Right now I game about 50/50 between Stadia and Shadow. Admittedly, I use Shadow more because it also functions as a powerful mobile graphics workstation for me. I'm going to touch on some common points about these services and maybe some uncommon ones based on the gear I use. I'd also like to get something out of the way before I get started. If I had to choose just one service to keep out of all of those mentioned above it would be Shadow without a doubt. That being said nothing beats the streaming gaming experience on Stadia from my point of view.
Resolution, Framerate, Color quality: 1st - Stadia 2nd - Shadow 3rd - GFN 4th - Xcloud
Stadia's 4k 60fps HDR capabilities making it the best in its class for streaming gameplay. This is especially apparent on a Chromecast Ultra where the experience is more consistent (various hardware and software factors on PC can effect performance) . Shadow is capable of limited 4k (no hdr support with limited framerate performance) and newer packages which I haven't tested yet are rolling out but aren't commonly available enough yet to consider as a feature of the service yet. GFN is capped at FHD (1080p) at 60fps with no HDR support currently to the best of my knowledge but it performed well when I used it. Xcloud runs at 720p 60fps but poorly with plenty of artifacts and image distortion. It is dead last by a long margin due to inferior video stream quality that offers neither quality or consistency.
Overall Hardware Support (Play Anywhere) 1st- Shadow 2nd- GFN 3rd- Stadia 4th- Xcloud
Shadows has officially support apps across every major hardware platform (PC, Android, and Android TV). There are no controller restrictions and wireless devices are supported. Shadow can also be scaled by the user through the application to fit almost any scenario (ex: Wireless, Mobile data). It is also relatively easy to jump across different Hardware in the same session. It also has a dedicated hardware platform, the Shadow Ghost. GFN has official apps on Android and PC but will require a sideload to use on Android TV. GFN is also scalable through the application though not quite at the same level as Shadow (ex: no codec options). It also performs well on most modern Android TVs. It has a dedicated hardware platform, the Nvidia Shield. Stadia is a really close runner up here to GFN and supports many of the same options but doesn't really perform as well on mobile data. This could improve in the future and use of the platform over mobile data is relatively new and considered experimental. Xcloud comes in dead last here too. Xcloud only officially supports Android. It can be sideloaded to Android TV but doesn't perform nearly as well as GFN, Shadow, or Stadia on most TVs. You also better know what APK your hardware supports and hope the app shows up in your app menu once you sideload and install it. In best case scenarios wifi and supported hardware Xcloud runs acceptably but beyond that it is a mess of stuttering and subpar image quality. Xcloud is also cropped which is obvious on larger displays. There is no application for Xcloud on PC at this time.
Game Library: 1st - Shadow 2nd - Stadia 3rd - GFN 4th - Xcloud
Shadow is hands down the winner here as it is a full featured PC with nearly no limitation on what you can play to include mods of existing games. Some newer anti cheats on modern games such a Valorant block play on Shadow but they are few and far between. While GFN does edge out Stadia in quantity there are some caveats that place it behind Stadia overall. There are no guarantees with what games will maintain developer approval on GFN. Many major publishers have pulled their libraries since its official launch. While Stadia's available library continues to grow GFN's has shrunk considerably. It simply isn't safe to invest in a GFN library unless you own a PC capable of running those games well. If you do then you have better options available to you than using any of these services. The guarantee of free games added to your library each month coupled with official developer give Stadia a clear advantage here. Xcloud boasts approximately 100 games at launch. It is by no means a distant 4th here compared to previous categories we've covered. Many of these titles are first party offerings by Microsoft or low budget games. The offerings are not nearly as diverse in regards to third party developers AAA titles such as Stadia or Shadow. Don't expect to play the best Ubisoft, Rockstar, and others offer here. Also you won't see brand new titles featured here first unless it's a first party offering. If you are into Microsoft games then you might rate Xcloud higher against Stadia or GFN but it's an accessory service and not a main platform like Stadia which limits its potential.
Pricing and Plans: 1st: GFN 2nd: Stadia 3rd: Shadow 4th: Xcloud
GFN has the lowest cost of entry at around $5 (USD) a month for premium access while also offering limited free access. You also get to play PC titles you may already own while being able to get often low PC game level pricing on new editions to your library. Stadia comes in second here offering a premium subscription for approxiamately $10 a month and limited free access. Stadia also offers a number of free titles to add to your library each month contingent on maintaining your premium subscription. While some sales are available on this platform games on Stadia do tend to cost more than their PC counterparts or older console versions). Shadow is similiar to GFN but has no free access and costs approximately $12 dollars a month for it cheapest plan option with an annual commitment. Shadow offers additional storage and is rolling out upgraded hardware plans at a cost. Xcloud is bundle with Xbox Game Pass Ultimate which costs around $15 a month with no free access plan. While Xbox Game Pass (XGP) bundled with the service offers a wide selection of games many titles are depend on which platform you subscribe to (PC or Console) and all gamepass games or not available for play on Xcloud. It would be great if Microsoft offered Xcloud as a stand alone service in the future to reduce the cost of entry and I am in no way knocking XGP's value but if you are in the market solely for a game streaming service Xcloud currently has the highest cost of entry. All that being said outside of the focus of this review (game streaming services), if you are looking at overall value, Shadow stands out once again as it offers a powerful cloud workstation in addtional to a great PC gaming solution.
Accessibility (Ease of Use and Access Experience):
1st- Stadia 2nd- Xcloud 3rd- GFN 4th- Shadow
Stadia really shines here. The ability to quickly get into your games to play along with often drastically reduced load times really sets Stadia apart from its peers. This is especially apparent in MMOs where loading into different areas really impacts your overall experience. Not to mention the platform's integration with home assistants and smart devices. Stadia is a very distant first here. Xcloud also is fairly simple to access via the XGP app but takes considerably longer to get into a game than Stadia and doesn't feature vastly superior load times as many games don't seem optimized for the service. All games are preloaded though which firmly places it 2nd in this category behind stadia. GFN has many games preloaded but not all. You also have to contend with additional game service logins beyond the GFN interface and may be required to jump through some hoops to optimize your game settings if needed. Load time performances vary based on fhe game but falls far behind Stadia overall. Shadow requires you to pre-install all of the game services you require and games on them. It is a full featured PC and demands a higher level of attention to use. Loads times are great for a PC but don't expect anything exceptional compared to an optimized platform like Stadia. You also have to ensure you configure Windows correctly to support the services and games you want to use sometimes in spite of Shadows default configuration. It can be a real headache if you aren't tech savvy.
Conclusion:
Well that is everything I have on the subject for now. It's been a while since I've cared about GFN as I let my subscription lapse shortly after nearly every major publisher pulled their titles reducing my usable library by 70% so some of my information may be out of date. I am also fairly new to Xcloud but given how hideous it looks and performs compared to Shadow or Stadia I doubt I will be spending a lot of time on it. I also feel that Stadia is in its infancy and has many features planned that will really set it apart. It will also be interesting to see how Sony's streaming sevice developes but as of yet I haven't had any experience with it. I have enjoyed many of Sony's first party games in the past so I do plan to try it out in the future. Hope this helps someone decide what service to invest in and what to steer clear of. It truly amazes me how unreliable the press is regarding covering these services. The best thing to do is try them for yourself.
*** Update : Network Information ***
I'm using an AT&T BGW210 running wired to a 1 Gb port to an Android TV, a 1Gb port for Chomecast Ultra, and get about 500+ Mbps up and down on a 5Ghz wifi link to my phone. The PC itself is connected through a wireless AC adapter and gets about 350 Mbps up and down to anywhere in my home. Mobile service is 4G through AT&T with approximately 50 Mbps download in the area around my home. Latency to the first hop on a speedtest is about 2-5 ms. For the mobile service it is 15-20 ms.

TL;DR: Smart Delivery discs are just base Xbox One versions on disc. Smart Delivery on a Series X means full digital download and not update patches to the base game like on One X. If you have slow / capped internet (or both), or like physical discs to cut down on downloads / preserve games, you may want to reconsider getting a Series X right now. I assume Series S is the same.
Full post: Let me preface by saying I buy all the consoles, but Xbox One was my lead platform last gen. Even with the whole 900p controversy on the OG Xbox, I still bought all multiplats on OG Xbox One. This paid off when One X came around. So again, I got both consoles with the plan to make Series X lead platform as I still believe in its better hardware despite early benchmarks. I also buy discs because of better prices and because my internet is not super fast and I have to deal with Comcast data caps. That said, I've been noticing launch games on disc having huge downloads lately. What gives?
Ok, so I did a bunch of testing using Smart Delivery Series X games on an Xbox One X and a Xbox Series X. My internet isn't the fastest so this took awhile when downloading updates/upgrades. Games I tested with: Dirt 5, Assassins Creed: Valhalla, WatchDogs Legion, The Falconeer.
Tables of results:
Installing disc and update separately
Installing disc and update together
Overall the base Xbox One game is on the disc. When you install it to a Xbox One X, you get the Xbox One game. If you're online, it wants to download an update. This could be just patches or patches and enhancements. Either way it's a smaller file.
When you install the disc to a Xbox Series X offline (must be forced, see below), you get the same base Xbox One version. But if you're online it'll ask if you want to upgrade (not update) and it downloads the full digital version (still requires the disc to play). Only 10% or less of the game is installed from the disc. As a result, the downloads are massive. Dirt 5 is a clear example of that at over double the base Xbox One install size.
The Falconeer is the outlier in that the disc install is 2.4-2.5GB and the update on all platforms replaces the entire disc install with an overall smaller install.
Couple oddities to note about Xbox Series X offline installing for all games tested except The Falconeer:

For Dirt 5 only, If the Series X detects internet connection, it will prompt you to do the upgrade when you try to install from disc. If you reject it, it closes and no install happens. It won't install anything. You have to disconnect wifi / unplug ethernet to force it to install the disc version. This doesn't happen on One X, because it installs the base game by default anyway.
After installing the game, you can't start them without internet. You will get an error saying that internet is needed to complete the installation. Nothing actually downloads, it just does an online check (maybe)? This doesn't happen on One X. So if you don't have internet at all, you're not going to be playing anything on Series X apparently
If you force the disc install to the Series X, and then enable wifi / plug ethernet back when you try to launch the game, it will prompt for the upgrade. If you deny it, the game doesn't launch. So you have to AGAIN disable wifi / unplug ethernet to play.

So based on these, Dirt 5 was the most annoying because I had to unplug to get it to install, re-plug to get it to finalize, the unplug again to get it to play.
Bottom line: If you have slow/capped internet, or prefer physical for less downloading / preserving games, don't get a Series X unless you want to play every cross gen game as an Xbox One (not X) game in BC mode or wait days for a game to download. Until they start putting only Series X games on the disc, or start considering the Series X as the lead platform, it'll be this way.
If you want to play next gen games with the least downloading right now, get a PS5 and buy the PS5 versions of the game. Sucks, but that's the way it is.

What will you be doing with this PC? Be as specific as possible, and include specific games (ex: resolution, FPS, settings) or programs you will be using.

Two of the biggest reasons that I've decided to build my first PC are because my current laptop doesn't cut it for Lightroom or Unreal engine. My current laptop doesn't meet the minimum requirements for Lightroom so I installed darktable and the performance is almost unusable. I also installed unreal engine while I was trying to learn some game development and this laptop isn't going to cut it. (I use a Lenovo ideapad y510p).
I've listed some of the things I'll be using the pc for below:
Gaming - I play on the Xbox One and PS4 at the moment and I'm not too picky about fps and resolution but I do want to build a pc that I can use for the next 10 years with minimal upgrades (I've been using the same laptop for over 10 years now). I don't think I'll be getting a 4k monitor at first but I do plan on getting one eventually. I play a lot of cod warzone at the moment but I also play a lot of campaign based games.
Photo editing - Going to be using Lightroom and Photoshop and managing large amounts of image files. I may also get into video editing down the line.
Game Development - Learning game development at the moment so I'd like a PC that I can use Unreal Engine 4 on.

What is your maximum PRE-TAX budget before rebates and shipping?

I want to say $2000 without the monitor but I'm pretty flexible if it means getting something I can use over a long period of time with minimal upgrades.

When do you plan on building/buying the PC? Note: beyond a week or two from today means any build you receive will be out of date when you want to buy.

Within the next month but I'm willing to wait on stock for certain parts. I have my eye on the nvidia 3080 so I'll be waiting for that to go in stock if I decide on getting that.

What, exactly, do you need included in the budget? (ex: toweOS/monitokeyboard/mouse/etc)

Tower, OS (I may be able to get this myself), monitor (I'll be upgrading to 4k eventually but I'm okay with settling on this at the beginning)

If reusing any parts (including monitor(s)/keyboard/mouse/etc), what parts will you be reusing? How old are they? Brands and models are appreciated.

I'll be using an older keyboard and mouse for now.

Will you be overclocking (ex: CPU/GPU/RAM)? If yes, are you interested in overclocking right away, or down the line?

I don't think so. Possibly down the line but I haven't done much research on this.

Are there any specific features or items you want/need in the build? (ex: SSD, Wi-Fi, VR, VirtualLink, tensor cores, large amount of storage or a RAID setup, CUDA or OpenCL support, etc)

Wifi

Do you have any specific case preferences (ex: mITX/mATX/mid-towefull-tower sizes, styles, colours, window or not, LED lighting, etc.), or a particular color theme preference for the components?

No case preference. Window and LED lighting would be a nice to have.

Do you need a copy of Windows included in the budget? Note: some post-secondary students can get Windows 10 for free.

Will you be upgrading this PC in the future (ie: will you swap out better parts later on or will you build an entirely new tower later)? If so, when?

Possibly depending on necessity. However, I would like to use this for the next 10 years with minimal upgrades.

Do you have a brand preference? (ex: AMD/Intel for CPUs, AMD/NVIDIA for video cards, etc)

I do have a preference for Intel and NVIDIA. I have my eye on the i9 9900k and the NVIDIA 3080 but I'm open to suggestions and advice.

What are the specs of your old PC / laptop? Do you want to see if it can be upgraded instead? If so, paste its build from PCPartPicker here.

Extra info or particulars:

This will be my first PC so I'm open to suggestions and advice. Looking to take advantage of Cyber Monday and Boxing day sales.

Is it possible to update games without Internet access

can you install xbox one games without wifi

can you install xbox one games without wifi - win

Stadia vs Luna vs GeForce Now vs xCloud

Amazon Luna

GeForce Now

Google Stadia

Xbox Game Pass / Game Pass Unlimited / Gold / Live / Play Anywhere / xCloud / Whatever it's being called these days

Shadow PC on the 4K Fire TV Stick [Setup Instructions]

Stadia is my next gen console

Stadia vs. Luna: My Experience

clueless first time builder

My Cloud Gamer Project - Part 1

[HELP] Random high spikes of ping, program suspected to lag the network

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