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The story of BS and corruption... Long post / may give you cancer -

TL;DR :–
· Me and why I was banned
· IWISK
· EVE CASINO
· CCP Security
· Tinfoil
· Shit Spelling

Dear Fellow Space Nerds,

For months I have been debating if I should write this piece and I warn you now it is long, I have written this and discarded it several times on the basis that it will just come across as a bitch or a whine. But as you may now tell I have left it long enough for many to not care, so this story will just be that, a story of bad spelling, bad punctuation and the worst grammar you have ever seen. But it is my story and I have decided to just tell it as the question “I thought you was banned” needed a point of reference I could send people to. Now I get you will be suspicious but I am telling it as I see it, and if you read all of this then bravo indeed! :)

Before we begin let me just say that the whole banning of gambling mechanisms from a video game I do support and that is my stance on it. It may just be for fun but does it hold a place in a sandbox from an external point of view, the answer is no and should be every time. However it can be incredibly innocent for the 99% that participate, it is however the 1% who may have been personally affected by the ability to gamble using IRL money via the forms of plex codes. My issue which you will read here, is how it was handled and how I was treated rather than the morals of gambling.

This story begins at the start of 2016. Between the dates of the 6th and 9th of January, approx 14 Bankers in IWISK was banned for suspected RMT. This was only several days after CCP Peligro (who will be referenced allot in this piece) had announced on Twitter that he was back to work. CCP Peligro has been a subject much recently on reddit and other channels (discord / IRC etc) and I figured I would give my experience with him and CCP as a whole. Now some devs from CCP are reading this and those who I have linked this too will agree with much that is written here.

Now the claims that the banning of IWISK bankers was due to SMA etc informing CCP Security of the 1 Dollar to 1 Billion isk that IWISK was selling, these were called Batts or batteries.. I know what you are thinking, why would CCP believe such an incredible story that 1 Billion equated to 1 USD... Now CCP Peligro was off on Christmas break when these emails were sent to [email protected] mailbox.

Well the simple truth is that they actually did! Team Security took this as an opportunity to jump on the IWISK RMT train which they failed to execute back in mid 2015 with the whole iwisk URL blacklisting from the in game browser. Now why would Team security hate IWISK? The answer is really simple and can be summed in a few bullet points :

So the complaints speak for themselves however the bankers who had actually been caught prior to this are simply the reaction of an individual acting alone. Some CCP Security caught and some we had emailed CCP Security of suspicious activity who had later been perma banned.

And lastly the blind spot... This for any organisation regardless of being a gaming company, this is just an almost impossible scenario to police and should never have been allowed to operate. But the fact is that it was and as such this was their own creation of a black zone. This black zone had existed for almost 7 years+ with 3rd partying websites. The actual Blackzone has technically always existed since the API was allowed for public use.

Now keep in mind this is not just IWISK related as ANY other gambling or website that allowed transactions to take place "legitimately" through a 3rd party site is a risk. The reason IWISK was such a risk was because literally hundreds of trillions flowed through it. IWISK could easily transact up to or approx 50 to an incredible 100 Trillion a month just by the master wallet alone! (may have been less but at its peak it really hit these numbers)

So IWISK was a massive risk to Security from an RMT perspective, and anyone could claim RMT, and to be fair to those who did, we could not prove that it was not happening. And I will explain why this is the case…

IWISK had a quick deposit method that allowed bankers to process isk by copying the transaction from the wallet into a field on the bankers backend. This allowed said banker to give the customer their virtual isk on the site within 8 seconds of sending the isk to IWISK Corp. This made us very popular as there was very limited wait times to gamble with your iskies.

However this system could be abused right? I simply could just copy a transaction from the wallet and wallah, I have given myself 1 bajjilion isk right... Yes this indeed is the scenario... IWISK or EEP mitigated this risk by adding a collateral to the bankers account. So if a bankers collateral was 10 billion, he could only quick deposit for players up to 10 billion isk. When the API ran after 30 minutes, these would be matched against the players transaction from the master wallet and the banker would be given his collateral back on the site.

So what the hell does that all mean.. well it means that a banker could amass profits as a banker and they could use those profits to RMT with. So If the banker had 20 Billion in his collateral wallet, the banker could sell 10 Billion to a player by just tweaking the transaction to their name, thus creating a fake wallet deposit in the database. The API runs and it will not match the in game wallet, and thus the banker is now down 10 Billion but you have "gifted" a player 10 billion isk to do what they want with.

So yes there was a loop hole in IWISK that allowed people to do this, but it was policed when discovered and this was one of the ways we caught people who thought they were smarter than the admins running IWISK or CCP security. I genuinely believed these bankers thought we could not catch them and that we would not shop them to CCP --- They were wrong.. --- I would often receive emails from players stating they just bought isk from xyz site and they got a iwisk email saying they had funds. So my response which can be verified by Security was always to inform CCP and if I catch who it was I would do the same.

So this is where it got a bit hard to navigate, I would often look at the person delivering the isk and be like "really this fucking guy is RMT'ing....". So when probed the banker denied it and I could not help but believe him. However I now had the issue of trying to work out who and how.. So this is really how the above loophole was discovered and the watching began to see who and how.. I never said or told people that we were watching them, simply just mailed everyone saying, if you are RMT’ing and using IWISK as a front we can identify you and you will be caught. Again this can be verified by CCP or a banker who kept these mails… We caught several bankers and details were sent to CCP and policing of that was now a task.

So back on track to the banning of the Bankers Jan 2016. After a month or so CCP un-banned all those involved. Except for one person “R00gle” who was in MC at the time. Now R00gle to this day denies any involvement in RMT and even went to FanFest to hang out with his buddies from MC. CCP Spoke to him and said they would look back into it, but they never did get in touch with him. Having now known R00gle for many years, If asked the question did he? I would say no every time and he was a scape goat for CCP Security to claim they got "their" guy from the ban wave in Jan.

Remember that CCP Security only answers to very few people in CCP and that would be Hilmar, and maybe Andie or Ned? IDK exactly who but this would be a reasonable assumption and really just speculation from other posts and channels I have poked around in. So on that basis, any communication directed at CCP Security is never going to give you a response, because CCP Security do not discuss with end client or in very rare cases they may, but not to the value add of the end user, and simply close your ticket with a no response. This you can find on Reddit hundreds of times and this is how they operate. This should come to many of you as no surprise regardless how shit the service is.

The so what to all that is, CCP Security hated IWISK from day one. Not just for the reasons above but also because they got told to let it go the first time around (mid 2015) and the second time around (Jan 2016). Most reading this will know about where CCP Burgtarist was open at FanFest and said he was over ruled and if he had his way everyone would have remained banned.

Now some numbers, because we all love numbers and spreadsheets! But sadly I do not have graphs... I could make one but then I would be just trying to buy the super nerds approval using graph pron!

This is the contribution of IWISK over 12 months to the RMT issue. So you can speculate that CCP Security spent hundreds of hours of no doubt, evidence gathering and data analysis which I know CCP Quant had to do. I am sure trying to map all that isk was a nightmare and the promo codes must have made it impossible to determine isk in vs isk out..

CCP released a figure stating that on average every day they ban 50 accounts for RMT or other activities etc... Now this same figure I have seen across reddit on a few occasions and I have used this number on occasion to make a point, and I believe it has comes from the 2014 FF video archive. If the figure is wrong let me know and I will recount my abbicus and update appropriately. But I think when you see the result the amount they ban per day will not change the outcome too much.

EDIT: Some facts for you... 2012 to 2013 30,202 Account banned total.

So 50 Accounts banned daily over 1 year

0.022%

Not suggesting that RMT is justified and belittling the issue at all, but numbers speak for themselves and the issue was tiny by comparison to what actually takes place in Eve if at all IWISK was RMT'ing. Now if you check these websites that are selling ISK and have feedback sections, you will see that they are still selling and moving the same amounts of isk. Soooo no sudden dip in ISK being RMT'd to the "black market"??? Think about that just for a minute and ponder if IWISK was such a massive RMT operation why has banning it had no effect on the 3rd party ISK Black Market? Smells like bullshit right...

So before I even get to what happened in Octoer 2016.. Several more points on RMT in Eve. It happens all the time and it is happening in alliances or inter corp constantly. Supers & Titans are being sold for RL $$'s all the time and accounts. CCP Tickets to FF / Vegas are being sold for isk along with Plane tickets / hotels and beer money.. Yes those going to Fanfest this year, there will be a few who have paid corp mates isk to fund their trip and hotel stays because they have soo much isk and some people have swag amounts of RL $$’s. I know many that have done this and even many CCP dev's know who these people are. This was discussed at a player meet on several occasions late last year. However this is not challenged or tackled because literally who gives a F, certainly the Devs attending did not give a F.

Hell I tried to buy a nice duder at FF but he refused to take my money and insisted he bought me the beer. So instead I said jokingly how about a plex as I will end up owing you? He said that is one cheap plex, but no you do not have to do that... Now some would have said hey, I buy beer and you gib plex K?... Little did he know that because he refused me spending my own money and just wanted to buy me a beer out of principle and in his own words "you have done a lot for many", when I got back to the UK @ home I sent him 20 plex's! Made me warm and fuzzy just for his reaction as he was gobsmacked. ♥ So If I am guilty here it is accepting a beer and paying 20 plex’s for the pleasure \0/ then yesh I deserve the banning. kek

So now we spin on to September 2016. Me and Eep had a few disagreements over several years and now looking back it was over trivial stuff and I decided that If I had stayed in IWISK our relationship would have devolved further. This being our friendship of 3 years was coming to an end and it genuinely made me sad and disappointed with myself. Regardless of what you may think of Eep or the way he reacts from time to time, he is a good guy and he takes way more flak than is deserved. He is down on his luck most of the time. He struggled with money and lived on very little, despite what you all thought, he was not rolling around in RL money living the dream, but sadly living month to month on most occasions and having to borrow money (which he repaid back to people). And I hope Gonz does not mind me saying that, but I just wanted to put it into context and disperse any ideas that he was rivalling yacht sizes with Mittens… If you really knew Gonz, you would know he had no money and if he had been RMT'ing then he would have been rich by comparison.

So I decided one day that enough was enough and if I stayed in IWISK one more day I would flip my sheet and my relationship with Gonz would be perma damaged. So I left to join Eve Casino who welcomed me along for their launch of a new casino that worked completely different to any of the others currently open. Now I did act badly here and I do regret my abuse of the in game mailing list IWISK had, I advertised me leaving IWISK and promoting a new Casino. As the Face of IWISK (streaming and Media) I tried to justify it as a bit of tongue and cheek on my way out, but it was a douche move. I figured Eep would take it two ways, badly or a challenge to step up IWISK 2.0 asap. Not one that I am proud of... But even after all that me and Eep have remained friends and we still talk from time to time. Some things are more important than space pixels, and I am happy to report he is doing ok and better off now than he was prior to IWISK being banned from EVE. The site is still thriving and makes more $$$$’s than it ever has.

So I am now with this new group ECAS / Eve Casino. The doors are closed for internal testing only and the website was pretty damn good I must say. I will not go too deep on ECAS as there really is not much to say, but the website was functioning but only to a point as it was only half finished, not ready for release. The planned release date was the week of Eve Vegas and much work was needed to get it finished.

So with that in mind that Eve Casino was not open to the public and not a single isk was moved through ECAS, the owner was banned along with myself Lenny and Eep. Here is the list of why's :

Now Eve Casino was banned because they had used the Crest API for the login to the site as part of the "Evil Network" SSO. This included EOC TV and a few other tools that was being developed. The Crest API was not used for anything else other than the player to login and this was approved by CCP for use. Adarics had spoken with several developers who had given him the greenlight to use it as it was not being used to handle wallet information or any other part of the player. But CCP security banned him for said use. So now we have a classic situation of Part A of the org not talking to Part B. When this was produced to CCP Security they just closed the ticket and ignored him.

And yes you got it, CCP Peligro. So again even with Adarics doing everything by the book, asking for permission and clearing everything prior to deploying it or using it, CCP still screwed him over, or should I say CCP Security. Now it is my understanding that he took this information to Falcon who basically dismissed him and said it did not matter as the case was closed. Now Falcon was A) not interested or B) Cant do anything...

Now you might be thinking wait there must be more to this than what Iron is telling us... Nope that is it, and the so what to that.. Around 12 bankers who were helping test the website which had not transacted a single isk and was closed to the public had all their wallets reset to zero, and Adarics was banned for a first time infraction of a rule that had no effect on the game as the casino was closed even though he had a green light from the Developers.

To this day Adaric is still banned and all those bankers who joined ECAS never got their isk back. They had done nothing wrong, not a single isk moved around, not involved in any of the coding, and CCP just took trillions of isk from these players. Soo, abuse of Power you might say? Guess who did this >>> CCP Peligro Mr Team Security.

Next we move back to IWISK.. Lenny and EEP banned for the reasons above and the rest of the bankers had their isk stripped. So again bankers in IWISK who may have been or may not have been involved in RMT was stripped of their isk and that was that. CCP took between 25 and 30 Trillion isk from both of these orgs and claimed a victory over RMT.

Now it is not hard to fathom that a lot of isk was purchased with plex. I often was intrigued if people had been playing with Plex to fund their activities on IWISK, as to me this was fascinating. Take away the human part that people may have been spiralling out of control, this can be said not just for IWISK but for EOH EVE Bet and the "others" who probably had small amounts of traffic but nothing worth boasting :P (still getting those jabs in). I do not like to reference competition as it seems like a cheap shot, but as these are now all dead, it no longer matters to a degree… But yeah the point here is that all that isk taken which no doubt the players had purchased via EVE or Markee etc has disappeared.. Not even some sent to Plex 4 Good or used to reimburse players who had their stuff stolen in game etc.. CCP talk about an isk imbalance when they restore Items from stolen looted accounts, well they have a huge sink to use. But I guess this was taken and written off as profit rather than use what they took.

Whenever people think of RMT or gambling in Eve they will always pick the most known target. One because the most popular and two because law of averages state that yes it probably exists at some point. However this can exist across all of the casino's, but given the most popular will always be the focal point, you are always going to be under suspicion.

An example of RMT existing outside of IWISK I want to share with you is a guy we caught from Germany, who was trying to use IWISK to funnel money to another player. He was using the raffle system buying 50% tickets with player 1 and using a 2nd account on another machine connected via a VPN to mask himself from us and CCP. His 2nd account would purchase the other 50% of tickets. So he was washing his isk. Yes IWISK was taking a cut as the house would normally regardless, but unknowingly being abused by some tard or tards. I asked this guy if he used any other ways of doing this...

With a bit of poking he finally opened up and said he had access to alliance funds and also a corp accounts in B0T. Not B0T holding itself ofc but some renter corps within B0t... This allowed him to funnel isk into these corp accounts and the use of these funds to build supers etc which he then 3rd partied to make RL money. This seemed like an obvious way to funnel isk and I asked him how he never got caught. His response was CCP are not clever enough or lack the resources to catch him... I was a little surprised by this but I wanted more info on this guy. I was trying to catch him out by getting any info I could, but all avenues lead me to around 50 iP's which bounced all over the world across 7 or 8 VPN services which are easily obtained online & his hardware ID's were changing all the time. This guy was the master or RMT and seemingly from what he was claiming (because that is what it is just a claim) and I wanted to know more, hell who would not be curious.

So I asked him if he had ever used any other websites to facilitate washing isk or doing RMT trades. He said the best one was using EOH Poker (Sorry guys). He said that all he had to do was set up a Head to Head and just lose to the person he was selling to... Or use 2 accounts of his and wash the money across 20 accounts over a 3 month or 6 month period of which none could be connected to Physical hardware or software ID tagging. He told me he would biomass on mass accounts, and some accounts he has had for years without being banned by Team Security. So he in private could wash isk very easily via playing poker in sealed rooms. Thus utilizing EOH's system to wash isk very easily with little to no risk of another player sniping raffles from him. I could see his point and he said that he would only use IWISK for certain methods of washing or selling isk, but he would not tell me anymore, he felt spooked by a few people dropping in and out of the channel. Once really confident talking to us then suddenly not so much. So this encounter certainly opened my eyes on how these guys were abusing sites to do these trades and he was boasting of hundreds of thousands of Euros in profit from this.

This ultimately changed how I looked for patterns in the database. For example looking for players who go head to head on raffles of a value higher than x and then expanding this to a large date range to see how long this was going on for. To be honest it was hard to figure out who was who and if it was chance or just normal activity.. So I thought I knew or had the silver bullet in identifying anyone abusing the system, but reality was, I am now more confused over the data set than ever.

So that aside, that was September done and dusted and I have now moved over to EVE Casino. Hopefully I have given a decent overview of the before the final banning and demonstrated that RMT was happening everywhere, but because IWISK was the most prominent focal point of the gambling scene in EVE, it had become the centre of all RMT claims, even though every system could be manipulated regardless of reputation.

So October the 12th and the ban wave and EULA changes announced by CCP. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/end-user-license-agreement-changes-coming-with-eve-online-ascension/

I am working night shifts and had been for a few days at this point. I woke up to hundreds of messages and tweets, skype, irc everything… I laid in bed and was like sigh this again!!! So I get out of bed, put on my slippas and go to the kitchen whilst reading all of the messages and a cluster barrage of confusion. I make a cup of tea (Earl Grey to be precise + 2 sugars dash of milk) and make my way to my PC. I was not worried as this had happened several times before and I have never been banned in 12 or 13 years. To be honest at that point I assumed it was just a IWISK the website had been blacklisted and all gambling was to cease, but to my genuine surprise, my account had been banned also.

When attempting to login I got the classic “Banned pending investigation, CCP Peligro”… I laughed out loud at first and then tried every account I owned. All 30 of them but alas to no avail. So I started checking my emails and literally as I opened my client, the email popped in.. It was from guess who, you got it – CCP Peligro

CCP Peligro (EVE Online) Oct 12, 15:22 UTC
Hi,
This mail is sent to inform you that your EVE Online accounts have permanently banned, in light of EULA violations. Specifically, you were found to be using your accounts "XYZ" and "XYZ1" for business purposes, in violation of the EULA, Section 2.A.
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.
2.A "Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited."

So I opened TS3 and those from IWISK was now back on my TS3 server and I started to understand what the damage was, and it was everyone, it was a swift attack from young Mr CCP Peligro.

So I noticed that a Petition had already been opened on my behalf by CCP, no doubt just for their tracking. So I responded saying “I have never RMT’d so I do not understand my ban”. Then as I sit there I read the email again, it was not for RMT as I had assumed... Because it came from CCP Peligro my assumption was that it must be ISK related as that is what he does right. But to my surprise it was no mention of RMT in my petition like Lenny’s. Now I had not spoken to Lenny at this point due to the TZ difference, but the guys on TS3 said his specifically stated RMT, yet mine was for a Section 2.A… So I jumped on IRC and started asking questions with some Devs at CCP, they said if it was not RMT then it should not have come from CCP Peligro, it should have come from another person at CCP. I cannot remember who the Dev is who handles violating of Section 2 of the EULA but we know that it is not CCP Peligro. So now I am confused as this info is coming from Devs and then a few days later I noticed that Nosy Gamer was talking about the same thing. (If anyone finds out who the Dev at CCP should have been let me know and I will update this to keep this accurate.)

So I respond to my petition basically saying, sorry I misread the petition, but I do not understand how I broke this section of the EULA. Can you explain to me what I did wrong…
But the classic silence now dawned upon this petition and not a single response. Few weeks later the petition is closed and not a single response nor explanation or even guidance on why and how to avoid going forward, just simply nothing.

I spoke with Falcon and we had traded a few emails. Not to go into them too much but the bottom line was that Security had concluded their investigation and as such the matter was closed. Nobody can do anything at CCP as the decision is theirs.

So no point except to maybe appeal to Internal Affairs at CCP. I did wait a while before doing this, & Not a single response.

The one good thing about going to Player events is you can meet Devs that you know or have never met. Meet people you have never met and share experiences. Even though I was super angry about what happened, I pulled up my big boy pants and put a smile on my face. I think because of my demeanour about the whole thing being happy go lucky and care free, nearly all the devs would speak openly with me about what had happened over a few shots and a giggle. Not giving too much away, but it did give away a few things that I was trying to understand. Why had I been banned as the reason given made no sense.

So take the email from CCP stating that my accounts had been banned for the reason “income seeking or for business” – Now given I know this is not RMT related as it would just say RMT and you are perma banned from EVE. Yet I am still allowed to play subject to proper conduct right? So it is not RMT as that is clear cut and nor should it be.

The only road I can go down is “Twitch” and the “Game Show” I was pixel space famous for. So I would ask these Devs when intoxicated, was I banned for the reason because of what I was doing on Twitch? The same response, sorry I cannot tell you but a smile & a wink was enough for me to know that I was on the right path.

Why all this effort and having to read between the lines, simple really, nobody at CCP would discuss any of this with me. Because they were kept out of the loop or those involved were told specifically not to discuss this with anyone at CCP or external. Drunk CCP best CCP :)

However not all employees will toe the line, so yes some expressed their disgust to me and apologised for their company & colleagues behaviours and some of the CSM contacted me saying they were appalled by this, and no I am not referring to Bobmon but “others”. It was comforting to know that despite the public flogging CCP gave me, people were still ready to call out CCP’s BS.

So now Its November and I kinda have a better understanding of the reason I was banned for. So I stream on Twitch like many others and the assumption from CCP or more specifically is that my channel is a cash grab based on massive amounts of ISK I have amassed from IWISK. (This was a comment made to me by a member of CCP GM's)

Now if you spent like 5 minutes in my channel like most critiques have in the past. You assume that I am trying to get subs and donations for the isk being given away. This could not have been further from the truth and if you have read this far congratulations…

The channel operated like this… If you are a subscriber you got “Iron” or points for every month that you were subscribed. So if you had been subbed for 1 month you got 500 Iron, and on month 2 you got 500 + 2000 for being 2 months, 3 months 500 + 3000 etc etc…

So the longer you are subbed the more points or “Iron” you got and this is known on Twitch as a loyalty system. You also got points for being idle in channel or being in channel when I was streaming.

Now if you are not subscribed you got no points at all, simply none as points are used to play in game channel games “roulette or Bank robbing” or entering Subscriber only giveaways / requesting songs etc. These giveaways were for Plex’s or other things which you could redeem via your EVE account management page.

I purchased these codes from Markee Dragons store or Greenman Gaming (Approved ETC or PLEX code retailers) and the money to buy these codes came from the sub’s money that I got from Twitch every month.

So I have been accused of Income seeking by CCP, and the reason I find this so ludicrous is that it was no secret of how this model operated. Hell every stream I would announce these code giveaways are only for subs because the subs effectively paid for them. And at this point I think nobody at CCP involved in my banning knew this, because they simply did not do their homework. I would love to be proven wrong, but that would require someone from CCP actually talking to me.

The other giveaways that was done on the channel follow’s CCP rules that everyone must have the same chance regardless of subscription type. This I followed to the letter and back story, I even asked for this to be made as a policy for streamers. The rules also state that this is for “in game items only” and Fozzie even reinforced that on Mittani’s Twitch channel days after this policy was released. He said if it is for anything out of game then do what you want with it, which reinforced the CCP policy on Streaming.

So I followed the rules to the letter and others on Twitch were still not following these rules… But hey I did not care as everyone has their own path to follow and if CCP really gave a hoot they would step in. I am no internet police vigilantly and I do not stoop to the same levels like DBRB for example. Yes DBRB I know what you tried to do and it failed.

Anyway back on track.. A little bit into the world of me and why income seeking is just utter nonsense.. I work as an IT Contractor and earn good money. Or at least I think it is good money. Approx 300 GBP a day or 380 USD a day not inc bonus etc. Not going to be a billionaire in RL, but enough to not worry financially about a mortgage or nice cars holidays etc.
So here is a rough example of what I got from Twitch every month and how those funds were spent. Sometimes it was less around 500 but it varied and at one point was as high as 720… This is puny compared to the likes of Zarvox etc but he does it full time and deserves every penny!

Twitch Income:

Monthly Expenditure:

· Server VPS - 105 USD · Deepbot 10 – USD · 1ronbot 5 – USD · Plex Codes and Aurumn Codes Monthly Avg - 200 - 250 USD · X-Split – 15

Total Monthly Expenditure - 380 USD

So I make give or take a massive:

245 USD a month

depending on how many subs I have, and this does not even include the cost of Electricity / Hardware failures or equipment purchases to improve the stream. If I was to break it down further into that. But as these additional's I have not included are for personal enjoyment as well and I cannot or won’t include them. as it would be wrong to do so.

Also any paypal money left over in paypal get's spent at the end of the Year on a Christmas and New Years special Stream. I buy as many codes as I can to give away (2015 Christmas I spent over 1100 USD on codes alone). So I run my channel almost non profit or at least as best I could. And yes I take money for Beer and Nachos cuz Beer and Nachoz amright?

So I was banned for making around 200 USD a month and some change because… NOPE NOPE NOPE I do not get it also. Other streamers make more $$$’s than me easy in the Eve Category, but yep you got it, it was all they could use to ban me. Literally they used a BS excuse to ban me from the game and publicly flog me.

So yes I got F’d over royally because some fuck wit child in CCP Security had a grudge to settle. That is truly how I feelz about this and it is disgusting. If any of my staff members behaved like this, they would be out immediately without warning. And I know I am not alone when it comes to complaints about Peligro and his conduct…

To add insult to injury he even followed me on Twitter about 2 weeks prior to nuking my account, I guess he wanted my tears…

http://i.imgur.com/MtAxI0Y.png

But the funny part is, as soon as I mentioned and saw this connection I emailed CCP about his behaviour and that day he un-followed me on Twitter. Bad taste indeed sir.

Now I had tried to reach out and extend my hand with Peligro, as he followed me on Twitter prior to the first ban wave in Jan 2016. I used to feed him info on suspected people or anything else that I thought may have been an issue. See image and you will notice the dates..

http://i.imgur.com/bxATAfX.png << But as you can see I was trying every avenue to get these sec people to engage.

Around June he stopped following me, so I took that as a sign that CCP Security wanted nothing to do with me or to aid in catching RMT'ers. I have also emailed and raised petitions of bankers & players who I thought were dodgy. And I also captured one of the bankers via Reddit who I know got banned. That was a good day for Reddit on the anti RMT front!

Now there is the whole unassailable wealth thing.. This made my literally laugh out loud. For a start I know more people in Eve who are station traders and combined have more isk than IWISK bankers / IWISK in general. They could have funded the war against Mittens all by themselves as a small group. Station traders in major hubs selling and buying firesales or hunting forums for cheap BPO deals and reselling them etc also have unassailable wealth. The hypocrisy that it is unfair because you cannot target these people and casino’s are generally untouchable… Well if you know station trading or have half a fucking clue about this game and enough capital, you can literally steer the market in your favour. And I do believe a trader recently and a few other have been banned and they are still banned. Guess who is investigating them… CCP Peligro

@ CCP – I am disappointed with you that you even listened to the dear complaints of the overlord Mittani, But I do expect you to Nerf Market trading so you can be killed and have your stuff taken from you, or would it be better Mittens to write a letter of complaint to Ned?
Sigh…

Lastly
I was debating and have been for the last 15 minutes whether to put this in or not but I will add these last few bits as conjecture and you make up your own mind. But all of the above is my story and I have no reason to BS. You can see it is open and honest. I have tried not to misty any part of the above except the bit with my email trades with Falcon as it contained some personal parts of my life when I was in the forces / Hospital. But I hope at the very least you can see that not everything is as it seems.

If you control the evidence that is received and you want a group or x people out of the game, you can make any evidence tell the story you want. Forget what you think about me or IWISK etc, just think about it for a while.

[Tinfoil-zone]

· Mittani is RL friends with Peligro and he is / was a Goonswarm Member… · Head of internal affairs left after this all happened. · Head of CCP Security left after this all happened.

[/Tinfoil-zone-end]

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To good to be true deal goes wrong.

Was about to go to bed, when I got a friend request. Usually I get requests from players that were in a match with me. But today was different. I didn't remember seeing this fellows name in a game I played. But I added him anyway. We started a chat, and this is how it went. I put my commentary in brackets ().
Sorlo the scammer : http://steamcommunity.com/id/SORLO12765/ : STEAM_1:0:1535077
Sorry forgot to turn on time stamps.
Never tell your password to anyone. Thursday, February 1, 2018 [cf] Crazycat: ?
Sorlo: hi man, are you here?
[cf] Crazycat: yes?
Sorlo: i added you because i've got an offer
[cf] Crazycat: lets hear it.
Sorlo: just i need someone who can advertise the site, sure i will pay you have to change nickname in Steam like [cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE and keep it 7 days i will pay 150$ today in Dota or CS:GO items if you promise to keep your nickname all next week Sorlo: is it ok?
[cf] Crazycat: what kind of items? Random ones?
Sorlo: change first
Sorlo: and we discuss
[cf] Crazycat has changed their name to [cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE.
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: this good?
Sorlo: yes
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: now, whats the offer.
(at this point I thought he wanted me to just change my name for some items.)
Sorlo: good job
Sorlo: what items do you prefer?
Sorlo: dota 2 or csgo?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: dota 2
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I dont play CS anymore
Sorlo: ok
Sorlo: dark artistry cape will be ok?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: thats only valued at 130
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: thought you said this was 150 value.
Sorlo: i add one arcana
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: Can I choose something else?
Sorlo: ok
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I also stream some times, maybe I can work out some kind of advertisements
(this is how you do business)
Sorlo: we can discuss it later
Sorlo: check our store on stepgamble. com and select items on 150$, put this promo to get your money ( N1VRS )
Sorlo: icon with a gift in the bottom of the page is a place for your promo-code
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: when I go to stepgamble it redirects me to fadegamble
(Turns out stepgamble is actualy fadegamble... who knew?)
Sorlo: i must be go on fadegamble
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: that promo code only gave me $5.00
Sorlo: alright
Sorlo: now u get more
Sorlo: reload the page
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: k
Sorlo: can you see a wheel on the main page?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yes
(I knew he could see the colors as soon as I got on there)
Sorlo: delete 0.10 and write 2 then bet on red (icon knives with a star)
Sorlo: win
Sorlo: 5$ on purple
Sorlo: MAN
Sorlo: 5
Sorlo: IS 5
Sorlo: NOT 6
Sorlo: NOT 7
Sorlo: follow my instructions
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: how do I remove the bet
Sorlo: all in red
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: k
Sorlo: how much u got now?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: 32.10
Sorlo: ok
Sorlo: lose 7$ gold to not suspicious for the admins
Sorlo: lost?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yep
Sorlo: ok
Sorlo: all in purple
Sorlo: win
Sorlo: go red
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yeet
Sorlo: all in
Sorlo: can we win gold x14?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: idk bro
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: you know the secrets
Sorlo: we bet $150 x 14 (gold) = $2100, then split $1050 for you and $1050 for me , is it ok?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: idc
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: sure
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I got 100 atm
Sorlo: i just know which color wins, but can not change it, so it is not rigged like scam csgo sites
Sorlo: But there is just 1 problem, you withdraw all items on your Steam account, 'cause you've added your trade-link, will you return my part after the withdrawal?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: sure
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: You know the secrets to the colors
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: so i dont see why not
Sorlo: can i trust you?
Sorlo: you will not block me?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I trusted you. Doesnt that meen something?
(I didn't trust him at all)
Sorlo: or smth like that
Sorlo: because we will win a big money
Sorlo: i just do not want to be scammed
Sorlo: im honest with you
Sorlo: so please be honest with me
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: thats true
Sorlo: so that's a deal mate?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: sure you got discord?
Sorlo: i can not use services like skype and dc at the work
Sorlo: we chatting here
Sorlo: all will be ok
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: ur at work lol
Sorlo: i have done it a few times before
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: you sure the admins wont find out?
Sorlo: i mean all the process, im not at the office ofc
Sorlo: yes
Sorlo: we will avoid the protection system of the site
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: ight lets do this then.
Sorlo: everything will be fine
Sorlo: just do not fool me
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: you want me to type something in the chat like "im going all in boys"
Sorlo: if you return my part and all comes good, we can make it again 7-10 days later
Sorlo: NO NO
Sorlo: it will be very suspcious
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: oh ok.
Sorlo: just follow my words
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: want me to make small talk with others tho?
Sorlo: no, do not use the chat
Sorlo: jut wrote YESSS when we win gold
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: kk
Sorlo: so, go
Sorlo: open inventory on the site (pig with coin icon) and press dota logo here
Sorlo: can you see some items here?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: hold on
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: we didnt win
Sorlo: WTF
Sorlo: DID YOU BET?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: you said to go old
Sorlo: WHY????
Sorlo: WHERE
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: gold*
Sorlo: I TOLD YOU BEFORE I CAN NOT CHANGE COLORS
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: right
Sorlo: I TOLL YOU LET'S DO IT
Sorlo: NOT GO GOLD
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: oohhhh
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: shit dude
Sorlo: Did you lose all???
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: can we work our way back up?
Sorlo: man
Sorlo: we have last chance
Sorlo: please do not hurry up
Sorlo: red all in
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: my .10
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: XD
Sorlo: ((
Sorlo: puprle
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: its ok this makes it look real
Sorlo: purple all in
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: purple again?
Sorlo: yes
Sorlo: it makes admin look intently at your account
Sorlo: because we gonna win 100+ from 0.10
Sorlo: it sucks
Sorlo: red
Sorlo: all in
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: nah its more like we made it look like the house wins, but we got lucky as fuck.
Sorlo: gold
Sorlo: you know that casino always wins
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yeah...
Sorlo: 5$ red
Sorlo: purple
Sorlo: all in
Sorlo: next round
Sorlo: lose 2-3$ on purple
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: kk
Sorlo: all in purple
Sorlo: ok look what now
Sorlo: open invent , it is pig with coin icon and press dota icon here
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: 104.40
Sorlo: can you see any items there?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yes
Sorlo: ok
Sorlo: so we at 104
Sorlo: alright.
Sorlo: select some items to reach 150, to be not suspicious for the admins and security system of the site, so we can play gold and withdraw our items on your account
(He wanted me to add money to spend money, then later I convinced him to unfreeze my account so then I could try and scam the scammer but they had a backup plan for that)
Sorlo: just tell me mate
Sorlo: which items do you select, i will return them back from the bot
Sorlo: it's np for me
Sorlo: just select any items on 50, some treasures or immortals would be ok, then we play gold and withdraw our winnings
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: this is a deposit.
Sorlo: yes, select any items to rech 150
Sorlo: then we play gold
Sorlo: i just do not want to be caught
Sorlo: then fired
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: im not putting 150$ of my items into the site.
Sorlo: not 150
Sorlo: we at 104
Sorlo: need $46
Sorlo: http://imgur.com/a/M1SCD
http://imgur.com/a/35AEM
http://imgur.com/a/MosbK
http://imgur.com/a/GSn02
https://imgur.com/a/Eybuh
http://imgur.com/a/GXzil
Our bot returns items to users and sends winnings
so do not worry about your items, they all will be returned back
Sorlo: tbh
Sorlo: i'm an advertiser, i get here 300$/week, admins are constantly checking my IP, accounts, mails, etc. I just found a way to earn some extra money for my college
(LOL 300$/week for college?)
Sorlo: have you selected some items?
Sorlo: you only have to trust me 1 time, each of us will be rewarded
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: Bro, I cant risk it, I went to ti7 to get some of these.
Sorlo: we have already done 90% of the work
Sorlo: man you have already won $100
Sorlo: anyway you do not lose anything
Sorlo: select any items, do not add expensive
Sorlo: did you check the screenshots?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: a few, but those could be faked.... :C
Sorlo: no mate
Sorlo: do not worry
Sorlo: you have my word, all will be ok
Sorlo: we gonna win it and withdraw
Sorlo: all you need to do is to reach $150, then i take other job in my hands
Sorlo: walk a mile in my shoes, i just do not want to lose my job
Sorlo: is it selected bro?
Sorlo: mate?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yes?
Sorlo: have you selected 50
Sorlo: ?
Sorlo: $46*
Sorlo: that's all you need to do, nothing else more
Sorlo: bet on gold 150 and then withdraw the items and send my part
Sorlo: so bro?
Sorlo: ok i'm making 50%
Sorlo: please do not scam me ..
Sorlo: check the balance
Sorlo: it is confirmed
Sorlo: ?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yeah im at 124.49
Sorlo: oh
Sorlo: nice
Sorlo: reach $150 and let's win gold finally
Sorlo: i know you wanna too
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: now we wait for another donation or we could bet on purple or something, so I dont need to put any of my items in
Sorlo: no man
Sorlo: you put now $25
Sorlo: i have added mine $20
Sorlo: no way
Sorlo: you have all the proofs, i won and donated 125 in total for you
Sorlo: now is your queue
Sorlo: turn
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: waaaait a second....
Sorlo: so???
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: lets bet 25$ one more time. So I know I wont lose it all.
Sorlo: no
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yes
Sorlo: i not want to be fired
Sorlo: you follow my instructions
Sorlo: i have added my money
Sorlo: now you reach 150 then we play gold
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: so why wouldnt you be fired from all the other bets?
Sorlo: because we won 100
Sorlo: not 2100 :)
Sorlo: that's a big difference
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: what if we just bet 100$ on purple so we get 200, then bet the 200 on red and get 400, put that back on red to make 800, we cash out and then I could advertise the link on my twitch :P
Sorlo: nice try man
Sorlo: but no
Sorlo: only way to win more is to reach 150 at the balance
Sorlo: no way
Sorlo: add any items on $25 then we play gold immediately
Sorlo: or do not waste my time
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: right, so why dont we just do a few more small bets?
Sorlo: Sorlo: i not want to be fired
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: you just copy and paisted that.
Sorlo: yes
Sorlo: i do not want to spend more time on you
Sorlo: add $25 and let's play gold
Sorlo: or delete me
Sorlo: stop writing the messages 24/7
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: so I figured out your game. You rig it so players win till they get to around 100 then you scam them out of around 50$ worth of items, they lose the gold bet, and you say something along the lines of "dang looks like you lost."
Sorlo: you deposit $25 or leave me alone
Sorlo: that's how it works
Sorlo: you will not lose ;)
Sorlo: you can bet $100 gold when you at $150
Sorlo: so your theory sucks
Sorlo: i do not make you bet exactly 150, you can check me and bet 100 or 80
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: you cant withdraw without 150 in the account
Sorlo: yes)
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: so you would still be takeing my 50
Sorlo: so?
Sorlo: 50?
Sorlo: i asking you for 25
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: oh im sorry 25
Sorlo: you are bad Sherlock Holmes
Sorlo: you find bad thing where they aren't hidding
Sorlo: thnigs*
Sorlo: hidingg*
Sorlo: srry im typing fast
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: idk dude, without real proof how do I know you wont leave me.
Sorlo: mate i have added $25 of mine
Sorlo: what is the profit to leave you
Sorlo: do you think i would spend 2 hours to take your $25?
Sorlo: it is hilarous
Sorlo: scammers not working by this way
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: thats how scam sites make the profits
Sorlo: they try to take all your stuff at 1 time
Sorlo: look at my acc
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I looked at it, your inv is private
Sorlo: i've been working in advertising for 6 years
Sorlo: if i scam users
Sorlo: i will be already banned
Sorlo: man i swear to god you will not be deceived
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I cant deposit, I just tryed it says something about frozen
Sorlo: no
Sorlo: you tried to bet
Sorlo: when you withdraw your balance getting frozen
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yes, and you stoped me.
Sorlo: it will be unfrozen when you make a deposit
Sorlo: it is written
Sorlo: in the message
Sorlo: are you ready to add 25 and finally win gold
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: up untill the part about depositing, I was convinced.
Sorlo: bet gold
Sorlo: next round
Sorlo: $100
Sorlo: now gold
Sorlo: now man
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: it says I cant
Sorlo: oh
Sorlo: deposit $1 to be able for betting
Sorlo: it is your fault
Sorlo: gold won
Sorlo: add $1 and unfreeze the balance
Sorlo: and let's win gold
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: you are a admin, just unfreeze it.
Sorlo: I'M AN ADVERTISER
Sorlo: I TOLD YOU 5 TIMES
Sorlo: DO NOT BE SUCH STUPID
Sorlo: added minimal?
Sorlo: can we bet?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: at this point, You can have all the profit, I just want to help you with your college.
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: Idea, what If you sent me a 1$ item, and I used that to unfreeze the account.
(good guy crazycat just wants to help this man go tough college)
Sorlo: )))
Sorlo: ah i got it
Sorlo: you are a jew
(wtf calling me a jew?)
Sorlo: ok np
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: ?
Sorlo: i make last deposit, if you scam me, i gonna find you and say hello to your family
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: whats the plan?
Sorlo: check the balance
Sorlo: done?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: bet gold?
Sorlo: no
Sorlo: wait on gold
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: k just tell me when
Sorlo: next is golden get ready
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: now?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: or next?
Sorlo: NEXT
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: k
Sorlo: now
Sorlo: all in
Sorlo: GOLD
Sorlo: type in the chat
Sorlo: after you win
Sorlo: GOLD NOW
Sorlo: MAN
Sorlo: GOLD
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: still wont let me
Sorlo: FUCK
Sorlo: DID YOU RELOAD THE PAGE???
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yes
Sorlo: TRY NOW 1$
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: two times
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: 1$ on what color?
Sorlo: Doesn't matter
Sorlo: worked?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yeh
Sorlo: nice
Sorlo: wait on gold
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: k
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: ready yet?
Sorlo: hold on
Sorlo: next is gold
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: k
Sorlo: nnow
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I hit the button but its not in the side bar
Sorlo: WE WIN
Sorlo: HOW MUCH WE GOT??
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: 1864
Sorlo: nice
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I wrote some messages so It looked real
Sorlo: open withdraw
Sorlo: ok
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: alright my dued, what items do you want
Sorlo: Take me Platinum Baby Roshan $1061.47
Sorlo: other is yours
Sorlo: just send my Rosh to me
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: kk
Sorlo: spend all the money
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: trying to Sorlo: ok
Sorlo: is done
Sorlo: it
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: still spending 300
Sorlo: k
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: cant decide
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: you didnt tell me there would be a 186 commission.
(yep they wont let you withdraw without sending items worth 186 to them first.)
Sorlo: WHAT?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: cant they just take that from my winnings?
Sorlo: DID YOU LOSE THE MONEY?
Sorlo: WHAT HAPPEND WITH THE MONE??
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: its still there my dude
Sorlo: send me the message
Sorlo: i will fix it
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: ok let me pick the items again
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: https://imgur.com/a/pa5AC
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: see
Sorlo: ok wait
Sorlo: i ask the main admin
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: yeah chargeing to withdraw seems kinda over kill
Sorlo: did you use dota2lounge btw?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I can.
Sorlo: ok i got it
Sorlo: we have won 2 times gold and our winnings is more than 1000$ so we have to pay the commission for site and Steam, admin said we would return all the items, look how do we do it
Sorlo: you get new button when you pay the commission http://imgur.com/a/k8a5A , you press on it and all deposited items come back to your account and we withdraw our stuff
Sorlo: look what we do now
Sorlo: open inventory on the site, select there 7 first items and tell me how much they cost in total, and write the names of these items
Sorlo: write me the names
Sorlo: so?
Sorlo: selected 7 items?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I dont want to put anything from my inventory on the site, I'd be ok with the admin taking the 186 from my winnings.
Sorlo: ti is impossible
Sorlo: you must add it in items then you return them back
Sorlo: http://imgur.com/a/k8a5A
Sorlo: add 186 and witdraw our stuff
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: Can he/she lift the commission charge then I could advertise for the site a few times to work it off?
Sorlo: no
Sorlo: you add it and return back in 3 minutes
Sorlo: that's all
Sorlo: so?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: sec
Sorlo: is it done?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: Im asking a admin a question first.
Sorlo: write in support
Sorlo: so?
Sorlo: do they respond?
Sorlo: what do you ask
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: nothing yet, I even sent a email.
Sorlo: use support near the chat
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I tryed that
Sorlo: try again
Sorlo: man??
Sorlo: so
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: im working things out with him
Sorlo: what's going on?
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: still talking to him
Sorlo: mm
Sorlo: nice job
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: I want to avoid the 186$ deposit.
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: you have access to the bots?
Sorlo: no
Sorlo: im an advertiser
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE: ok, you have to trust me on this one. you can send me a 186$ item or items and ill deposit it.
( Almost got them lel)
Sorlo: pay the commission and withdraw the items
Sorlo: AHAHHAHA
Sorlo: good luck scammer
Sorlo: i can send you your mother by DHL
Sorlo: do you want to?
Sorlo: bb
Sorlo: i report you
Sorlo is now Offline.
[cf] Crazycat | STEPGAMBLE has changed their name to [cf] Crazycat.
This is where our story ends... but is it the last of Sorlo? We might never find out. Though this whole ordeal I never sent any items to anybody or did anything that would compromise my account to them. Did some snooping while bullshitting this scammer like looking up his site (https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/fadegamble.com).
TL:DR : I wasted a scammers time, had some fun with it. Didn't lose any items. Fadegamble / STEPGAMBLE are scam sites and should not be used / gone-to.
Ps. I know people are going to say something like "why did you even bother going to the site / playing along" the more time I wasted having him mess with me, was time not spent scamming someone else. Also it was fun fucking with him.
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TNA 2016: deLETEoBSOLETe (TEW Promoter Diary Entry 4)

Entry 3
Friday, Week 2, January 2016: Ugh, didn't sleep very well last night. I feel like absolute shit today. Better suck it up, though, we have tapings tonight and work to do this morning, plus I'm on a plane to the damn venue.
Jack Doane, Jimmy Korderas and Rene Dupree are on the one week wait list. Should have my zebra problem all figured out after this.
Truth Martini, Prince Puma, Jim Cornette, Raven and Rob Van Dam are on the roster. I stuck Martini with Hyper Force X in the hopes that they'll build each other up until I can move them both to better things. I'm having Prince Puma stay under the mask (though it's a different mask here in TNA because mo' masks, mo' money, bay-bay!) and I'm thinking about doing a long term storyline where he discovers his heritage as the descendent of Aztec royalty. I'd probably need a few more luchadores to work with him if I were to do that... anyway, right now he's on my upper midcard. Raven's going on my midcard for a little while, but I'm only using him on the roster until, like, Lockdown. After that, he's going to do better things backstage. Rob Van Dam obviously is going in my main event. It might be the tail end of his run, but I'm gonna use him for all he's worth. Jim Cornette's going on commentary for a bit. I want him to come back as a manager, but I need to figure out who to put him with. Anyway, I have Josh Mathews, Eric Santamaria and Jeremy Borash on Xplosion, and the trio of Jim Cornette, Mike Tenay and The Pope on Impact and Pay Per Views.
SHOWTIME
While I'm still driving to the venue, I can feel my phone go off a few times. Checked my phone once I get there, expecting the worst, and it's some of my friends I had backstage telling me that Robbie E is cool as fuck? Like, Robbie would have had no idea who these guys were, but he still approached them, seeing that they were someones guests, and bullshitted with them for a good hour. Really made their day. I'll remember that, Robbie.
Running the Soaring Eagle Casino in Detroit, Michigan. I remember coming here shortly after I turned 21, getting shit drunk and losing $1200. Keep in mind, this is before I was fuck-ton rich, so that was a lot of money back then. Still, amazing time. Feeling really happy and nostalgic now that I'm here- a full 180 from this morning on the plane. Okay, enough nostalgic musings, we have shows to book, goddammit!
Xplosion
Okay, we're starting off Xplosion with a match between the Osirian Portal and Hyper Force X. I thought that these are two shiny new tag teams, I know they can work a good match against each other, should put on a good match. They put on a pretty okay match, but the crowd just did not give a single fuck about them. Seems like I'm really gonna have to step up my game in finding ways to get these guys over... (E-)
Playing another hype video for Zack Sabre Jr, going to announce his opponent on Impact. At least the fans liked it more than the opening match. (D-)
Filler Four Way match between Trevor Murdock, Crazzy Steve, Mahabali Sheera and Aidan O'Shea next, with Crazzy Steve going over. Figured I'd give him a win here since something... unfortunate is going to happen to him on Impact. Murdock's taking the fall- still pissed about last week. This match was absolutely the drizzling shits, and a huge chunk of it had to do with Sheera. He's not even making it to spring cleaning, he's going to GLW first thing in the fucking morning. I knew this match wasn't going to be Guerrero-Malenko, but I still expected better than this. (E)
Taking a few minutes after that to plug the tournament semifinals matches that'll be happening over on Impact. I did this mostly to get Eric Santamaria's face out there, and he was pretty underwhelming. It's only his second night on the job, though, so I can forgive that. What I can't forgive is the fact that Josh Mathews looked like a lost fuckin' puppy out there. He's outta here! (D)
Kimber Lee and Heidi Lovelace up next. I want to keep Kimber Lee looking strong through the match, but Heidi'll get a big underdog upset win. I have no clue what the fuck happened out there, but Heidi and Kimber really shit the bed out there. I know both these girls have the skills to pay the bills, but I fear that I'll have to stick em' in GLW for a while. Pity. (F+)
After that, Dixie Carter comes to the stage and announces that the main event (Manik VS Grado) will be a #1 Contenders match for the X Division Title, winner faces Tigre Uno at Genesis. I forgot that Dixie was on the roster, and I figured I'd give her one last thing to do before my Spring cleaning. I don't think I've heard a crowd boo that loud for that long for anyone other than Roman Reigns. I'm hoping this main event doesn't totally suck, or this episode is fucked... (E)
Main event, Manik and Grado. I mean, obviously Manik's going over, but I'm giving Grado one last shot to stay on the main roster, even as just a job guy. I'm even setting things up in favor of Grado looking good here. This was easily match of the night, but that wasn't a very hard feat to accomplish. Grado was fun out there, and Manik really let him look pretty good. I'm proud of Grado. (D-)
This episode was way worse than last week's Xplosion, and I didn't know that was possible. The crowd shits all over the rookies I try to bring in, which kills the potential to use Xplosion to introduce new talent. This puts me in a complicated situation (E+)
ON TO IMPACT
Starting the show in probably the least impactful way ever- Mandrews comes out and issues an open challenge, he says something about wanting to prove himself, yadda yadda. I am aware going into this that the fans are going to hate it (and they did), but there's a reason. (E-)
None other than Raven comes out to accept the challenge, and he has this big, elaborate five minute entrance because theatrics and Raven go together like Peanut Butter and Jelly! Fans got into it. It wasn't like the second coming of Christ or anything, but they liked it. (C)
This little segment ends with Raven squashing Mandrews in three minutes. Just something to make Raven's old ass look like a million bucks. That match didn't really get over at all, but it turns out that Raven and Mandrews have great chemistry in the ring together.... the fuck? (E+)
Mike Bennett taking on Robbie E next. Alright, solid back and fourth match, around the 10 minute mark, Maria trips Robbie's foot, small package, Bennett wins. Maria and Bennett begin to celebrate, but Billy Corgan comes out, tells the ref to restart the match and bans Maria to the back. Bennett tries to argue, but Robbie comes in like a damn cheetah and pounces, gets the win. This gives Maria and Bennett a reason not to like Corgan, gives Robbie a bit of a rub (Like I said, I'll remember the nice shit you did for my friends, mate), should be good business, but wasn't that great of business. The fans really didn't pop too huge for it... bummer. I thought this would be one of the better matches of the night. (D)
Mike Tenay, Jim Cornette and The Pope announce that Zack Sabre Jr's first match in TNA will happen at Genesis, and it'll be against.... DJ Z. Yeah, I know, maybe a little underwhelming, but I think it'll be a solid enough match. Plus, with DJ Z going to GLW after Genesis, I can have Sabre squash the fuck out of him and not have to worry. The announcement got a small pop. I can live with that. (D+)
Backstage segment with the Hardyz next. Jeff wants to make sure that he and Matt are cool after last week, Matt assures Jeff that he has no hard feelings toward em'. If you're reading this, you might already recognize that that's bullshit. The slow burn continues. (C+)
Semifinals match between Hardy and Galloway. I want it to be a solid back and fourth, but with a fucky finish. Couple minutes before the finish, ref bump. Hardy ducks a clothesline and the ref gets nailed or something. Anyway, bing bang pow, Hardy nails Galloway with the Twist of Fate, goes up for the Swanton, but Paul Burchill comes in through the crowd and fucks Hardy's day up. Burchill powders, an “oblivious” Galloway makes the pin, ref magically comes to life, 1-2-3. I hate overusing dirty finishes, but I feel like I have to to tell the story I want to. So far, match of the night, by the way. (C+)
Face vs Face double debut, Gran Metallik and Prince Puma work a 15 minute time limit draw. Both guys should look great, sets up a rematch for Genesis. Upset that Metallik got pissy when I mentioned that they'd get the same amount of offense in... really hoping this guy doesn't turn out to be a huge prima donna. Metallik and Puma went out and had a real barn burner, but the fans didn't really give a shit. Kind of upsetting. (D)
Big hand shake after the match. They're faces, don't need people thinking that one of em's going heel at Genesis. Speakings of... if the fans are this dead for what was honestly a great match, how will they react at Genesis? (D)
We cut backstage, Corgan's in his office doing what the fuck ever. Mike Bennett storms in and starts yelling at Corgan for costing him his win. Corgan gives Bennett shit for being a cheating lil' bastard, but then announces the North American Title Battle Royal at Genesis, and he announces four names for the bout: Grado, Ken Doane, Robbie E and... Mike Bennett. Bennett is still unhappy with Corgan, but he leaves. Further tension leading to the debut of the Playboy's Club, plus I get to announce the battle royal. I can live with that. (D)
Willie Urbina interviews Kurt Angle backstage, and Angle puts himself over big time. I'm not even sure he tried to talk about the match... I'll have to talk to him about that. Also might want to consider getting a different backstage interviewer, because Urbina wasn't the greatest.... Josh Mathews, I might have use for you, yet. (D+)
Main event, Angle faces Bobby Roode in the semifinals of the tournament. Big, exciting face vs face match, Angle ends up going over clean. Good match, nothing to add. (C+)
After the match, EC3 and Tyrus come out from the crowd and beat the ever beloved shit out of Bobby Roode. Because Revenge. Because Playboy's do whatever they want... or something, still working on potential catch phrases for this. Tyrus didn't look the best in this. I might want to get a little more muscle in on this group if I want it to look super good. (C+)
Another alright show, this time in front of a sold out crowd of 3,000 of my home town folk. Genesis is in a couple of days, and I'm nervous about that, but I think we'll do alright. (C)
Saturday, Week 2, January 2016: Woke up to find Gran Metallik and Prince Puma bitching about how tired they are from the match they had last night. I don't know why the hell they messaged me- they KNOW they have a match at Genesis. Also, Mike Bennett has signed with ROH on a PPA deal. This better not get in the way of him working my shows... I know Dalton Castle chose to work ROH last night instead of my show. If this becomes a similar deal, I'll have no choice but to sign Bennett to an exclusive deal, which could fuck with my ROH deal in the Honor Code, and I can't have that! Fuck, the alliance is partially named after them... hind sight being 20/20, not sure why I named it that. We all know that TNA is the focal point of this alliance, dammit!
Also, got a message from Tory Hart saying that she's gotten all she can out of GLW. Girl, please, GLW hasn't even run it's first show yet! Sit down! You are okay at best right now!
Jim Cornette was making a giant stink about being just a color commentator today. Kind of annoyed at that. Don't get me wrong, I've always wanted to see an angry Cornette promo in person, but maybe not being cut on me... however, he does raise a good point. He would be very valuable to this company as a heel authority figure... hmm... Dixie's on her way out, and I could still have Cornette on commentary... I think I might have to switch a few things up. Threw him 3 grand to cheer him up a bit.
Colt Cabana and Ayako Hamada are on the one-week wait list. Man, I'm gonna have so many new names to play with by this time next week, I'm so pumped!
Jerry Lynn, Austin Aries, Jake Roberts and Brian Cage are all signed! Now I just need to wait to hear from Haas. Sent Lynn to work with the younger guys in GLW. Austin Aries is going straight to the main event, and I'll probably have him as a key member (maybe even a forming member) of the Playboy's Club! Didn't expect him to get a main event slating, though. Makes my World X Cup a little more difficult to book... anyway! Jake Roberts is being put in as a personality (In reality, he's going to Xplosion for now to be an announcer. Borash is going backstage for interviews.) and Brian Cage is going to be another bodyguard for the Playboy's Club (He'll also be teaming with Tyrus called Playboy Muscle because I need tag teams)
Just found out that a huge chunk of the reason Cornette was so pissed with me was because I hired Shawn Michaels as the head trainer of the Impact Dojo. Really, Jim? C'mon, you two will literally NEVER see each other! He's not even signed with the damn company, he's a trainer that works exclusively at the dojo! Fucks sake!
Genesis is tomorrow. I'm nervous as hell, but super excited! This is my first real Pay Per View, and I think it'll be alright. Not great, maybe not even good, but alright. This is the real launching point of me as a booker and as an owner and fuck, I'm hyped for it!
Author Notes: Okay, I know that there's been a bit of a time gap between this update and the last one. Long story short, I just built a computer and I'm in the process of setting that up, and transferring all of the shit on this computer over to the new one. That's been eating up most of my free time. Until I get all of that sorted away, updates might be a little more sparing.
On a note that might seem like a giant “what the fuck” moment, I'm also running a 9000-Verse diary over on the Grey Dog Software forums. It hasn't really gotten any traction, so maybe you guys can check it out here?
Anyway, I'll try and have the fifth update up by next week. After that, I can start to toy around with my ideas more; should be a good time!
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